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steve pickett
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Puppy Prices

SEEMS LIKE MORE PEOPLE ARE ASKING $300 - $400 FOR PUPS THESE DAYS.SEEMS A LITTLE HIGH TO ME WHAT DO U THINK.IN MY WAY OF THINKING $200 IS HIGH ENOUGH...IT'S A GAMBLE EVEN WITH A WORLD CHAMPION BREED PUP....

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lildryekennel
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the highest i ever paid for a pup is $125. i have seen my grandpa pay $400 for a pup and i thought he was crazy but it was for me.

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wakenda creek b
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Its expensive to raise a litter of pups these days.I usually get $250-300 for my pups.This last litter I payed $300 for stud fee,I drove 5hrs one way,took my female to the vet for the brucollosis test,papers for the pups,shots and wormer, and the puppy food.I remember the days when you could buy a pup for $50 all day long.You could buy a trained dog for $200-300.I think those days are gone.

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Adam Wingler
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A well bred pup has been that much and way more for a decade or better.

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This one isn't even worth a response anymore.

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kyhunter50
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No way would i pay that for a pup.

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blackflagginit
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ive sold them for as high as a grand each at weaning.....but the facts are, there are VERY few pups who accualy sell anyway....there just isnt much demand for them..........o sure there are a few litters each year everybody scrambles for in each breed..........but i would love to see the comparison between the # of pups born and litter registered, and the number perm registered


coonhunters are a rare breed..........and it is very easy for the supply to over shoot the demand :/

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VaBirdDog
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A coon hound puppy is about one of the cheapest breed of puppy you will find these days if you think about it - short of getting something from the pound. Look at what all these people are willing to pay for their little house dogs and nothing is expected out of them other than to piss on their carpet! LOL Most of these guys raising retrievers are getting 1-2000 ea if not more for some litters. I've got a pair of pointers that I can have a whole litter pre-sold at 2500 a piece. Buying a puppy of any breed is a risk but its also a sure way to have one raised up and trained just the way you want it without taking on someone elses cull later on. It all boils down to the people involved in the sport and what they're willing to pay.

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Dwils
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Price pups at 200 and get every tire kicker and wannabe coon hunter in the world asking about them and buying them . Price them at 3-400 and usually only people that are very serious are inquiring . Or if your name is JIM Sizemore your screwed either way and noone is ever interested haha even when ole Kate is a coondog

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they got to make that tud fee back on one pup and the money they spent on that brood bitch! haha jk you can get well bred pups for 75 bucks just because its not all grand doesnt mean it aint well bred you breed for coondogs not titles.

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walkerdog1
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I can't rember the last time i paid less than 300 for a pup all the pups i buy are from 300 to 600 each i wont go over that i don't like it but that's how it is

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Last litter that I had I gave way. Turns out the pup that I kept is my favorite pup have ever fed. Everyone else likes there's too. Not all grand and the male was a pr dog and the female was a show ch. he did do a lot of winning in pkc. They all seem to just need to be put in the wood. All of them that are being hunted are running and treeing 1st or 2nd night in the woods.

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Coon hound pups are ridiciously cheap compared to other breeds of dogs in the world and compared to the time it takes to promote a dog to the level anyone even wants a pup from your dog, plus the cost of raising the pups it is a loosing proposition in a dying sport.

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imacorgimom
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I know everybody does things differently, depending on their breed and what they do with their dogs, so your mileage may vary. I was asked by a mom whose teenage son thought breeding corgis was going to be a great way to make some $$$ to give him a dose of reality. This is what I came up with:

Purchase price of quality bitch $1500-2000 +/-
Food and medical care for 2 years before being of breeding age *too scared to calculate!
Show expenses – entry fees, hotel, gas, food, clothes, grooming supplies min. $500 weekend
Hips – radiograph and submission to OFA $200 +/-
Eyes – specialist exam and submission to CERF, done annually $50 - 100 +/-
DM $65
Cardiac – specialist exam and submission to OFA $100 - 200 +/-
Brucellosis $75 +/-
Health certificate to ship $35 - 50 +/-
Stud fee $1000 - 1500 +/-
Airfare if shipping bitch to stud $250 - 300 +/-
Progesterone testing $85 +/- x 2-3
Repro vet for AI or surgical frozen insemination $200 +
Extra / other food for bitch in whelp $100 +/-
Ultrasound to determine pregnancy $60 – 100 +/-
Xray to count heads $70 – 100 +/-
C-section $1000 – 1500 +/-

Puppy expenses I haven’t calculated recently:
Dewclaws and tail docks
Vax for puppies
Worming meds
Microchips for puppies
Food for puppies until 10-12 weeks
Vet exam for puppies

Vacation time from work

You can do all this and not have buyers. You can do all this and she doesn’t take, she takes, but then aborts, she has no live puppies, she has puppies but won’t take care of them, so you are feeding and pottying puppies every 2 hours for 3 weeks.

Companion corgis puppies in my area sell for $800-$1200 on a spay/neuter contract. Corgis typically have 6-8 in a litter. I've yet to see a profit!

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I know an Amish lady that raises and sells them Corgi puppies. She has a male and a female, both registered and gets a couple of litters a year from them. I doubt either dog has ever seen a vet. She feeds Ultra Advantage white bag, worms and vacs one time before she sells them for $500-$600. She sells everyone of them and she is making money.

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Good for her. That's not the type of breeder I aspire to be.

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So many of those tests are completely unnecessary . And half of them are a huge scam. All apart of charging a ridiculous high price for a dog. Certified hips carry absolutely no water, that itself is one of the biggest scams of them all . My boss drove to Louisiana and paid 2000 for a Rot pup off Von Worter German line or something of the sort . The promised this is one of the best bred Rottweilers and certified this and that . By the time she is 2 years old her hips are completely gone . The breeder guaranteed a new pup for free if this was to ever show up , but that hasn't happened.

My same boss bought a 300 dollar pup off an Amish breeder . Full Rot. This was one of the very best looking rottwielers i have ever seen . Excellent conformation ; lived until it was 14 years old .

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Good for her. That's not the type of breeder I aspire to be.


Well I don't aspire to be any kind of breeder at all but I just thought I'd point out that there are those who do it and make nothing and there are those who do it and make a make living at it. The ones that make a living at it are purty much looked down upon by everyone except those that are buying them.

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Good for her. That's not the type of breeder I aspire to be.



Thank You! I generally charge $1,800 for a pup (Great Dane)... My last bitch I bred finally took on the third breeding. Natural didn't take, AI didn't take, finally the surgical AI did.. I probably put about $10,000 into this litter. I ended up with three pups and and emergency c-section. I got one bitch (I kept) one pet dog I sold ($1,600)and a puppy that ended up with dwarfism that I ended up keeping.. Rarely even if you end up with good litter size (6-8) do you make much more than your expenses back.

Breeding should be to get a quality dog that you want to work and a litter that will make you proud... Not to make an income on.. Amish are usually the biggest puppymillers out there.

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Out come the aspiring breed bettering breeders....

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Well I know of dogs that I will never own now! Haha but If you breed you should breed for that fact that you want a pup out of that cross not to just make money off of it.

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Funny people will pay over a grand for an ankle biter.....ask 400$ for a well bred coon dog and we are crooks??

500$ stud fee...travel to the stud and back...registration, performance program, vet visits, shots, worming, etc etc....

Then dealing with tire kickers, beggars, and low ballers for weeks, 300-400-500$ aint bad...

And a well bred pup will have what it takes...the 2 that we kept from our litter both turned out great...

But, well bred pups are far and few between and like this post shows the average coon hunter dont wanna pay for them anyways...

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If you are producing pups that arent in demand enough to bring 300 bucks, chances are they are from dogs that shouldnt have been bred in the first place.
If its an experimental cross that you are making for yourself, keep a couple pups and send the rest back where they came from.
To much supply and not enough demand is why a top bred coonhound pup is worth a couple hundred bucks and designer lap mutt is worth a couple thousand.

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