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Nt CH Wolf River Blue Faith, Nt Ch Crooked Creek Blue Boots

I know the Boots female is deceased. just wondered about the Faith female?

Anyone know of any top notch dogs that are out of these two females? I know of some from Boots, How about Faith?

I tried to contact the owner of Faith, but never could get through on the telephone.

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Who does it show for Faiths owner now? She started out with Scott Shaw and I.
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Who does it show????? Is there somewhere to look this up?

Last I knew a guy named Joel Namminga from SD owned her. Tried to call him, never got through.

I know there were some Shockey pups out there and I was told some Hammer pups, but thats about all I know.

Just trying to keep track of the last of my crosses.(I welped them both)

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Faith

You might be able to check with UKC if you have the reg# on who she is registered to. We lost track of her after she was sold. I think she had 3 or 4 wins to GrandNite on her. Did you make any crosses on the Sugar female that we sold too or was that a different guy.
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Re: Faith

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You might be able to check with UKC if you have the reg# on who she is registered to. We lost track of her after she was sold. I think she had 3 or 4 wins to GrandNite on her. Did you make any crosses on the Sugar female that we sold too or was that a different guy.
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Must be a different guy. I never owned a Sugar female.

Thanks for the info and if anyone else has any info on Faith pups thanks ahead of time.

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I believe Fred Harruan from Iowa has 2 Shockey and faith pups and randy strain and brandon Burt in mn have a male outa Shockey and faith!

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I Believe the guy in S. Dakota raised a litter from Faith and a
Hammer XVIII male and then sold her. I either don't know where
she went or maybe I don't remember. All the hours of sleep I
lost through the years are catching up with me.

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I Believe the guy in S. Dakota raised a litter from Faith and a
Hammer XVIII male and then sold her. I either don't know where
she went or maybe I don't remember. All the hours of sleep I
lost through the years are catching up with me.



LOL. I have said the same thing. Gotta be all the lost sleep.

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I had gyp off Shockey and Faith. She didn't make it, didn't have much desire to tree and was SUPER mouthy. That bitch forevermore had an amazing mouth though. I hate she couldn't put it all together, her mouth would make you stand back and take notice.

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Any other info?

http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthrea...ghlight=shockey faith&pagenumber=4

Found these pics of one of Fred Harroun's dogs.

Just wondering how most of these pups out of Faith have turned out?

Wish the Hammer XVIII male she was bred to was Hilbilly ;-)

I think the Hammer XVIII male x Faith would be some of the youngest ones left out there. Any info on who where they would be? Or how to get a hold of SD Blue, that is who owned Faith last that I knew.

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Re: Any other info?

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http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthrea...ghlight=shockey faith&pagenumber=4

Found these pics of one of Fred Harroun's dogs.

Just wondering how most of these pups out of Faith have turned out?

Wish the Hammer XVIII male she was bred to was Hilbilly ;-)

I think the Hammer XVIII male x Faith would be some of the youngest ones left out there. Any info on who where they would be? Or how to get a hold of SD Blue, that is who owned Faith last that I knew.



Who was the 18 male Kevin?

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Re: Re: Any other info?

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Who was the 18 male Kevin?


Not for sure. This is where the trail has hit a dead end. Never could get through to the guy that supposedly owned her last, and she may have been sold again but not for sure.

Faith would have been about 3/4 solid Jet blood and 1/4 smokey river dancer. I would think that a decent hammer 18 male would have thrown some nice pups out of her.(depending on the males ****s side)

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I started the one I had out off Shockey and Faith and sold him to Tony Russell from Oran, Iowa, he doesnt comp. hunt but loves the dog says he trees alot of coon with him, his name is Ogre and the female we had went to a guy in Clarksville Iowa is also used as a hide dog, last I new he treed a pile of coon with the dog dont remember his name.

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Mitch,

Do you know anything about the ones Fred Harroun has?

What did the female you have look like and was she a solid tree dog?

If you ever hear anymore about these pups let me know.....or if you know where Faith is at, or other pups out of her are at I would really appreciate it. She was supposedly bred to a hammer 18 male too.

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The male I had is named Ogre nice hound and solid treedog and the female( Shy) my son n law had started a little later but turned out to be a nice hound, the one Fred has he really likes ask him about her he is on here from time to time

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A buddy of mine has a real nice male dog off of the old Boots female I used to own and Terrance Bailiffs Jet 5 again dog.

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A buddy of mine has a real nice male dog off of the old Boots female I used to own and Terrance Bailiffs Jet 5 again dog.


That sounds like it sould have been a pretty good cross! I will keep that in mind. How old of a dog would he be?

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That sounds like it sould have been a pretty good cross! I will keep that in mind. How old of a dog would he be?


5 Again was a grandson to 18 out of HillbillyXLady.

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A buddy of mine has a real nice male dog off of the old Boots female I used to own and Terrance Bailiffs Jet 5 again dog.


Max, your Boots female is the same one Kevin is talking about, off Jet 7?

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ICB he is a 3 or 4 yr old I believe
Blue Iron yeah its the boots female I used to own. She was off of jet 7 super nice gyp

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ICB he is a 3 or 4 yr old I believe
Blue Iron yeah its the boots female I used to own. She was off of jet 7 super nice gyp



Interesting. Can you tell me about the male off 5 Again and Boots? Who owns him? What's his name? Might be a possibility for Panic. Is he titled?

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He lives an hr north of me a town called Tuscola. He doesn't hunt competition but the dog is a very nice hound and bred good. Bret Winn is the guys name he the same one that I posted the young dog on here for. I been thinking of breeding a female to him myself.

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great blood!!!

Max,

My first choice of course would be to find a younger female out of Boots.....or maybe a female out of Faith. Of course I would really like to know as much as possible about the whole litter, and then get lucky and find a sleeper, one that someone didnt realize what they had.

Second choice would be a female out of a female out of Boots...like a pup out of Fancy...if it was a good cross. Fancy x Jet V again sounds good. Or the right female out of Faith if the cross was good and had the right traits and no bad ones.(or very few anyway)

Thirdly I have been looking at males out of Boots to get a female pup off of. Tharp has one that has thrown some nice ones, and the one you just told me about in Tuscola also sounds like a great possibility.

Fred Harroun's Diamond female on here might cross great on Tharps Luther or Bret Winn's dog.(not likely to happen though)

If you do make a cross on Bret's with a good Jet backgrounded female let me know. I would be looking for a good female.

I'm not in a great hurry(patient to get the best possible to carry on).

Thanks for the heads up on Winn's dog. I really appreciate it.

Kevin

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Yes Tharps dog Luther has thrown some nice ones he only has 1 litter out of him and a B&D spike female but there was quite a few hounds come out of it

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Yes Tharps dog Luther has thrown some nice ones he only has 1 litter out of him and a B&D spike female but there was quite a few hounds come out of it


Too bad one of Tharps or Winns dogs wasnt a female. That could make a good cross in itself. ;-)

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