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GraysRedbone
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help on a pup

I got a 7 month old pup I been working with a lot, and I haven't let him sit in his kennel worked hard with him almost everyday for a couple hours took him to the woods and walked him messed with him on drags and coon tail. showed him a live coon that was in a rolling cage and let him see it and rolled it away and he let out three good barks but as for me getting him to bark at a drag I drug to the tree and he will find it and tree but no barks at all. He is a redbone, is this common for you guys or am I just having this problem getting him to bark.

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He is only 7 months old. Be patient and let him grow up. You can do a lot of damage by trying to force him to do things at that age.

Not every pup, and to be honest very few, are ready to go at that age.

IMO most of the stories you read on here about 4 month old pups treeing their own coon and stuff like that are BS.

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GraysRedbone
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yeah I been working with him alot haven't let him sit around and I just want to see some work I have put in come back out I have seen a good amount of improvement though.

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If your seeing improvement you are doing good, that is all you can ask for from a pup of that age.

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jacobhills
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I have a six month old pup that acts like this, but I havent worked her as hard as you. I have worked her about 4 times now since she was 4 months old she has been out with her mother twice once last month and once this month and she went the whole way and opened a little on track she is not scared of the dark. When I work her on the drag I will make a drag about 75 yards long with out her knowing that I am makeing it wait about ten minutes then get her out of the kennel and turn her loose as if we where hunting and really she is. She will always find the coon but has know idea what to do with it and wont open. I get the coon down for her and let her play with it for awhile about 5 minutes. Then tie her back and tease her and make another drag about fifty yards but out of her sight and hang the coon over her head so she can see it but not get at it. Then cut her loose this usually gets her fired up and she will then bark on track and tree I make sure to tie her up at the tree and praise her real good. The whole lesson only last about 20 min and I only do it once or twice a month. The bottom line is she just isnt quite ready yet, but I want to atleast get a couple little seeds planted in her brain when I work her. I have started quite a few pups and most of them usually get going pretty good between 9 and 13 months old. Just dont work them pups to hard befor they are ready and it will come. Very few are super pups.

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You don't wanna work him too hard. The biggest problem with pups, is the trainer.....

You have to be PATIENT!!!! Keep doing what you have been doing. Take him for walks in the woods, work with drags, tie your roll cage to a rope so that you can pull the cage up the tree. Work with him on leash training, loading in the box, take him for rides in the box, work on recall training, and be patient. Each pup learns at his own pace.

I have 2 one year old pups that are coming along nicely. they are litter mates. One is a nice track and tree dog that is about 50% accurate, good mouth, works a trail, and gets it done, while the other one barely opens on trail, has to be walked (will go with other dogs no problem), but he is much more accurate when he trees. At 7 months old, these guys where just like yours. One day, it just kind of clicks with them and they really take off.

And virgil, I can show you a video of one of my pups treeing his first coon, split from the other dogs at 4.5 months old. Alas, he didn't do that again until he was almost 10 months old, but he had it that night. For one to tree consistently at that age is BS, I do agree on that, but for one to smell a hot track and possibly see it run up a tree and hit it is not out of the question at all. Seen it done several times.

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GraysRedbone
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what he does

I have seen alot of improvement, and alot of things I like I have made a couple drags that were 150 yards and he found them and didn't bark or open up but he did find them. Every drag I lay gets a little more difficult I have him loading in the box and I have taught him alot about healing and working with him on the leash, since the day I got him I started putting in the hours and time. He has runs a little over 100 yards each time he is out with older dogs and one time got out 300 yards. He never barked simply got away from the other dog. He will bite into a coon hide and a dead coon and he is gun broke. I guess I am letting the anxiety get to me about hunting ha, because I wanted to hunt him by himself during kill season. But running season seems like his age to hunt.

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Originally posted by Virgil
He is only 7 months old. Be patient and let him grow up. You can do a lot of damage by trying to force him to do things at that age.

Not every pup, and to be honest very few, are ready to go at that age.

IMO most of the stories you read on here about 4 month old pups treeing their own coon and stuff like that are BS.




if u think its all BS

then u been feeding the wrong bloodlines!!!!

seen/owned several that treed their own at 4-7 months old..

just keep working the pups with a coonhide/dead coon, an take it to the woods ,

when the light switch comes on,it'll do what its bred to do!!!!!

4mths-2yrs,,,
if its not bred in ,u wont see it come out at any age!!!

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Originally posted by Lonnie_y2002
You don't wanna work him too hard. The biggest problem with pups, is the trainer.....

You have to be PATIENT!!!! Keep doing what you have been doing. Take him for walks in the woods, work with drags, tie your roll cage to a rope so that you can pull the cage up the tree. Work with him on leash training, loading in the box, take him for rides in the box, work on recall training, and be patient. Each pup learns at his own pace.



I agree..........You can't FORCE a pup to do anything. Be PATIENT, if it has it, then it will come out sooner or later! You got to think a pup learns a lot like a kid they have short attention spans. Keep your TRAINING short and exciting, and don't push em to hard!!!

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wvhardline86
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you have to give them there own time to pop my dog was 2 before she got coon crazy

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bobby593
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I have a 8 month old plott who did the same thing then outvof no where started barking and treeing. On his own when he is ready he will. Jmo

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vthunter26
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pup

i have a year ol redbone male an he would trail the drags an run a coon wide open but then when he got to the tree he just go silent this is when he bout eight months ol an he would act the same way with other dogs on the tree i just kept huntin huntin him an finally a month later he sings on the tree pretty well! pups take patience an huntin like all the other guys say an each progress at a differnt speed just dont wear him out by huntin to much i go four nights for bout two or three hours good luck with him!

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