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'Be who you are and say what you feel, because those that matter - don't mind... And those that mind - don't matter.'







Oklahoma is the only state that Obama did not win even one county in the last election...







While everyone is focusing on Arizona 's new law, look what Oklahoma has been doing!!!!







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Oklahoma law passed, 37 to 9 an amendment to place the Ten Commandments on the front entrance to the state capitol. The feds in D.C., along with the ACLU, said it would be a mistake. Hey this is a conservative state, based on Christian values...! HB 1330







Guess what.......... Oklahoma did it anyway.







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Oklahoma recently passed a law in the state to incarcerate all illegal immigrants, and ship them back to where they came from unless they want to get a green card and become an American citizen. They all scattered. HB 1804. This was against the advice of the Federal Government, and the ACLU, they said it would be a mistake.







Guess what.......... Oklahoma did it anyway.







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Recently we passed a law to include DNA samples from any and all illegal's to the Oklahoma database, for criminal investigative purposes. Pelosi said it was unconstitutional SB 1102







Guess what......... Oklahoma did it anyway.







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Several weeks ago, we passed a law, declaring Oklahoma as a Sovereign state, not under the Federal Government directives. Joining Texas , Montana and Utah as the only states to do so. []







More states are likely to follow: Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, the Carolina's, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, West Virginia, Mississippi and Florida . Save your confederate money, it appears the South is about to rise up once again. HJR 1003







The federal Government has made bold steps to take away our guns. Oklahoma, a week ago, passed a law confirming people in this state have the right to bear arms and transport them in their vehicles. I'm sure that was a set back for the criminals The Liberals didn't like it -- But ....







Guess what........... Oklahoma did it anyway .







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Just this month, the state has voted and passed a law that ALL driver's license exams will be printed in English, and only English, and no other language. They have been called racist for doing this, but the fact is that ALL of the road signs are in English only. If you want to drive in Oklahoma , you must read and write English. Really simple.







By the way, the Liberals don't like any of this either







Guess what...who cares... Oklahoma is doing it anyway.







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Fed.law supercede state law. Wonder how many fed.dollars ok.gets?

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Fed.law supercede state law. Wonder how many fed.dollars ok.gets?

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Also just passed from conceal carry to open carry ...

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If they secede from the union most of these so called independent states will go broke without fed.dollars. They feed that bullcrap to the ones who don't know. I know the civil war was fought to keep the union together. Civil war because of what? There will be no more civil wars in this counrty because thing are on a global scale,to much hinges on this counrty staying together.

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How does that sand feel on your scalp trackdriver? It must be pretty nice for as far as you have your head stuck in there....

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Gubment plays a bigger role than just some politian selling you what you wanna hear. You really think the rich is worried about some poor ole sap ideology,the bottom line is the dollar. I hope one of the states try and pull that crap! LOL!!

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THAT WOULD REALLY WORK. SUCCEDE FROM THE U.S. STOP FEDERAL MONEY, THAT DOES AWAY WITH ALL THOSE YEARS OF WELFARE, UNEMPLOYMENT, THEN WHEN PEOPLE MOVE TO ANOTHER STATE ON THE DOLE, PROBLEM SOLVED. PLUS THEY WON'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THE "SOCIALISM" THAT THE REST OF US WILL. CASE CLOSED!!

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Where do you think federal government gets it's money ?

A self sufficient society has to be made up of self sufficient households , cities , counties , states and etc .... Oklahoma can take care of itself ... we may be poor , but we still aint for sale !

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China.

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Sad that you really believe okla. as well as other states are not tied to gov. and you think it's all about welfare and unemployment,man you listen more than you read.Why do you think this hasn't happen? You really you can cleanse your state of welfare and the unemployed? Name me one socialist program?

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Name me one state that doesn't use fed.money,if your politian really believe what he or she or your state preaches , would've made a move. I agree china owns to much of us but this has been going on for a long time and where were you then?

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Snopes.com

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15 states petition to secede

http://www.examiner.com/article/15-...united-states-1

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Nobody believes the states aren't tied to the federal government .. so calm down with the drama and nonsense . But , as a general rule of thumb .. no red blooded , tax paying American likes to be told what to do or how to do it and we are at a point now where the laws are piling on and on ... and it's taking away our rights.


If the majority of the citizens of a state and the educated folks in that state decide something is best ... then the federal government and everyone else should support them ... not squabble about it ... every state's economy , heritage and flavor is different .... if we can make exceptions for muslims , mexicans and africans ... how about we make exceptions for regular old AMericans whose families have fought for and built this country.

And no , I don't wanna hear some goofball nerd smart off about my heritage or views ... they are mine and not ... for ... sale .

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If they secede from the union most of these so called independent states will go broke without fed.dollars. They feed that bullcrap to the ones who don't know. I know the civil war was fought to keep the union together. Civil war because of what? There will be no more civil wars in this counrty because thing are on a global scale,to much hinges on this counrty staying together.

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THERE ARE ALREADY SEVERAL SOVRIEN NATIONS IN OKLA.

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The almighty dollar is king in this country. Good old Americans sold it,their your heritage you don't wanna hear. Read some good old american history. Here we go with this non-sense that cost romney the election. Sovereign nation or states? And why do we have sovereign nation? Poor victims of your own success!

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NO, INDIAN RESERVATIONS MY FRIEND, SOVERIEN NATIONS

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The american indian another victim of america's success, how ironic you mention the nation. Trail of tears mean anything. A very heartbreaking story how blacks,latino and other people of color treated the american indian,just sad.

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what the heck are you holllering about ? are you sorry you're an American ?

The Indians are better off than any other conquered nation in history ... instead of pointing out the bad , put it in context and just stick with the truth if not the good !

Ask the jews if the Indians had it bad , or any other people conquered in history .

Ask the blacks that were sold into slavery by other tribes while in Africa is being freed and living in America is better than what happened to their original captors in Africa ... we treated them alright in the long run.


Ask the Mexicans flocking here illegally why they don't go back home , if it's so bad here ? Maybe they would like to go back to the Mexican cities where families live in three story cardboard boxes and fight with stray dogs for scraps while their government gets rich off dope and exports.


America opened it's gates to all immigrants and freed it's slaves , and tried to be fair to those it conquered ... no other nation in history has matched that kind of compassion ... so it's you that needs to be learning about history .

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Every state in the Union gets back less money from the feds than the tax payers from said state pays in. If a state seceded (I doubt it happening) they would still be money ahead.

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two more bits of analysis:
"This red-blue split may be partly explained by the difference between urban and rural states. Red states are more likely to be rural, and rural states were more likely to receive more federal spending than they paid in taxes in 2010. Among predominantly rural states, 81 percent received more federal spending than they paid in taxes. In contrast, 44 percent of urban states received more federal spending than they paid in taxes. Rural states, on average, received $1.40 in federal spending for every tax dollar paid; urban states, on average, received $1.10. (Rural states are defined as states whose urban population rate is below the national average of 79 percent.)"


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"A look at 2010 Census and IRS data reveals that the 50 states and the District of Columbia, on average, received $1.29 in federal spending for every federal tax dollar they paid. That means that some states are getting a lot more than they put in, and vice versa. The states that contributed more in taxes than they got back in spending were more likely to have voted for Obama in 2008 and were more likely to be largely urban."

My two cents worth- urban cores are the economic engines of our society. It is where most of the money is made and spent. therefore where most of the taxation happens.

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I'd say that list is trying to be tricky .. we all pay federal taxes and if each state is getting back those federal taxes that it's citizens pay in .... then it's not really the federal government giving the states money .


That's the problem with policitcs and coonhunters trying to be politicians ... everyone trying to be smart and all they are doing is repeating what they saw on tv or found in some biased form of media that is lopsided.

When two sides argue that the other is completely wrong on everything , everyday ... and just hammer at each other with ears closed and slinging skewed information and hate at each other ... then everyone is just a rambling idiot.

No state should seccede , but the federal government is getting out of hand and straying from it's purpose ...

And taking from the rich to give to the poor , massive amounts of welfare given to those who could be working or at least not making them do some kind of community service for it ... that is socialism.

The cities , counties and states having big budgets and their own road crews and such that just squander money instead of a small government that uses private parties to do the same job cheaper and keep government small and accountable ... that's socialism .

Socialism and communism and all those ism's ... happen when the government becomes bigger and more powerful than the citizens that created it ... don't need any regurgitated spreadsheets to know that .

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"A look at 2010 Census and IRS data reveals that the 50 states and the District of Columbia, on average, received $1.29 in federal spending for every federal tax dollar they paid.

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