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Bubbas, here is two paragraphs from a letter wrote by J. Richard McDuffie in 1995, and a link to the letter in full.You bubbas need to learn something about the long haired Curs. http://www.oldtimefarmshepherd.org/...chard-mcduffie/ "I spent 42 years, 1953 -1995 breeding and reestablishing the Leopard Cur, Leopard Tree Dog or McDuffie Strain Leopard, whichever name you want to call it. They descended from the old time farm dogs (Farm Shepherds or Farm Collies) of the Carolinas. They have the Shepherd mind-set but can cold trail, open on trail and have the staying power demanded of coon, bear and lion dogs.

In more recent years (1980s) there was a resurgence of interest in squirrel hunting. The type of dog needed for hunting squirrels was one that could trail some, but not cold trail and would use eyes and ears to locate squirrels. Terrier types were being promoted as squirrel dogs. I realized that the old time farm dogs of my childhood did a far superior job. As a result I started a nation wide search for the Old Time Treeing Farm Shepherd. I write two monthly columns, McDuffie Strain Leopard and Camus Cur News and Breeding for Results for Full Cry Magazine. I started writing requests monthly in both articles as well as my advertisements asking for anyone who knew of Old Time Treeing Farm Shepherds to contact me."

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I don't think the long hair makes them tree any better.LOL

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richard spent a total of 3 weeks with me up here. bet you didnt know that.

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CC, your right, I did not know that. Now you got me thinking, that might not have been a Border Collie you used. What I do know is that McDuffie had a genuine interest in all types of Curs, and I sense you do also.

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it was a border collie from up here.but they looked a touch like the collies in the pictures and there parents were right from the old country ireland. and yes i respect and enjoy watching all good dogs.whats going on your acting half butt normal. hmm.

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do you know what a camus cur is.

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CC, a mix of Canadian Cur and Leopard Cur, and a dash of what ever McDuffie saw fit to put in the mix. Your question should have been, What was the Camus Cur? Finding a true Leopard Cur for the cross is very hard to do these days.

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your close but wrong. camus cur a mix of three different breeds.leopard cur canadian cur and 3 curs from mexico. richard got the 3 from mexico and sent them to me to train. then i sent them back.my question was fine. why because you answered fine. haha

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CC, do you have any pics of the Curs from Mexico that you could post? If not could you describe them for us?

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never did take any pictures of them.all three were 60 pound dogs real lean with long legs.cur ears and very shy dogs.there colour was a redish brindle mixed with red meral if i recall.odd looking.richard got them from a huge goat hurder they were born and raised and lived with goats all there life.thats all i know.

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CC, thanks, for the description.

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CC what did you think of the camus did they have any advantages over other curs or not really ??

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i really cant say never had one. but years ago i got a number of phone calls that had them for bear and they were there top dogs. it was my understanding them the best ones were cc crossed with leps no blood from mexian dogs.

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I had also heard that, i think Richard told me at one time that he tryed to breed out the mexican cur because it did not work that great or something to that effect

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before i sent the mexican dogs back to richard i told him to cull every one of them.there were useless in my mind.he said no no so i sent the back.to this day i still dont understand why he got dogs from a goat hurder. oh well it was his money and time.live and learn. george wood from your state thinks he will head up this way for a week in oct if we get this set up he might be looking for someone to ride with him would you be interested.

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I would love too, but i'm slammed with work so probably would not be able too....How far are you from minnesota ?

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its about 700 miles.george will get back to me once he gets his pass port.

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orchidhunter,
Are Cherokee curs the as long hair ? When I lived in Okcity some one had Cherokee curs.

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Gary Hazel, the only Cherokee Curs that I know of were from Western NC, around the Cherokee, NC area. They were small curs, some of them just Feist size, and had a short coat. I am of the opinion that all of the old true Indian dogs have gone to the happy hunting ground, many years ago. Here is a link you can check out http://www.sqdog.com/forums/index.p...mp;#entry670335 Keep in mind that if a Cherokee Indian has a Cur dog, he can say it's a Cherokee's Cur. Check out the link, but I think they are all long gone from this earth. Now, their was a line of Aussie Shepard known as the Cherokee Line that could work all kinds of stock all day, and hunt all night if you were up to it. The Aussie is just a long haired Cur. Folks of all colors liked them.

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A FELLOW IN OKLA. HAD WHAT HE CALLED CHEROKEE CURS LONG TIME BACK HE WAS A CHEROKEE INDIAN
his name was vrl keeter, I think that is spelled correctly

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