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Hoosier
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"Once in a lifetime" Hounds

For those of you that have been fortunate enough to train and/or follow that "Once in a lifetime" hound. How soon in it's developement could you tell that it was going to be your SPECIAL hound and not just another nice hound or one that could simply tree a coon now and then?

What made it special from the others that you followed ?

Drive ?
Heart ?
Competitiveness ?
Ability to please you ?

How many hounds do you think COULD have been that once in a lifetime hound to someone, but was just another treedog because of training and handling ?


Just curious.

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I think there are a lot of elements that can go into making a "once in a lifetime" hound.

I knew I had mine when, on the third night I took her hunting, she struck, trailed, and treed a coon on the outside that my hunting buddy's seasones Black and tan, who was a nice hound, couldn't smell.

This was the first time I saw her do this, but certainly not the last. That female had a nose that beat any hound I ever hunted with. And she wasn't slow.

Extreme ability factors like I just mentioned, along with great heart and superior intelligence, are what makes a once in a lifetime hound.

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My once in a lifetime hound

Lady Neith seen her first caged coon at 4 month old

Later that day I turned her loose on it again and she jumped right on top of the cage I knew then that I had something

One week later she treed with an older dog

She has been treeing ever sence

Nov 23 she treed her first coon all by herself at 7 months old


This spring I will be entering her into the hunts I have really high hopes for her. She will also strike from the truck

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Once in a lifetime hounds.....

I have had two.....the first I got her when she was 6 months old, first night in the woods she knocked a hole in the dark, didnt say anything, but was at the tree, the second night she split treed and held tree for about 30 minutes til I got there, rackin off about 120bpm, unbelievable.....she woudl tree tons of coon that the other dogs didnt know were there....never seen a harder treedog, or a better layup dog......sadly she ended up on the highway......
the second treed his own coon and held pressure at 4 months old....he woudl strike, run track, and tree coon that other dogs didnt know were there, ou could take him huntin alone at 4.5 months and he woudl get it done.....I have only seen two dogs in my life that were faster on track than this pup, his sire, Bullets Runnin Rattler, and the above female.....

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somtimes you

don't realize how speacial they are until there gone.

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im still waiting on my"once in a lifetime"dog but i did have the privelage of hunting one.

we turned him loose for the first time at nine months old.he had never seen a coon.3 weeks later he was the best dog we had,and we had a couple grand nites.
by the time he was 13 months old he was the absolute best coonhound i have ever seen in 35 years of hunting.
the hunts ruined him at an early age,but he ruined me for life.till the day i die he will be my measuring stick when looking at coondogs.

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Awwww your just greedy elvis,LOL

Man what was that about,must have been a bad batch of eggnog ya reckon!! Yeah them good ones will spoil,so I have been told, I havent had one yet.

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my dog named "choppin Axe"! he treed his first coon, by hisself the fifth time he ever walked in the woods. i knew he was that special hound at seven months old when people were comeing over just to see him hunt, and everyone was telling me that i had that once in a lifetime hound. at seven months old he was treeing coon that older dogs could not tree (layups). it was nice seeing him tree and the older dogs couldnt tree with him, and the meat was always there. what makes it so nice is that he was the last one in the litter, you know the one that no one wanted.. Gary Woods

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After further review

I probably got one that fits that ,but I just hope I get some a touch better!!

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Yep it was burr cold thirty out and

treed nine coon,big ol boars only one mss the whole night!! And that one was one of them tricky coons that is a tree top travler using every blow down around to go acouple hundred yards down and slip away, get him next time!!

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Elvis.....

I have seen you post that the dog was GREAT before he was ruined in the hunts 2 or 3 times. Not to be stupid, but what changed when he went to the hunts? Maybe I don't want to take my nice little female to the hunts this spring.

I am fairly certain of the dog you are talking about. Did he ever produce his likeness in any of his pups?

Knowing the caliber of dogs that you have hunted, he must have been one helluva of hound !!

You hunting any now ?

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Once in a lifetime hound

Mine is UKC NTCH GRCH--AKC GRNTCH GRCH DEB`S SWEETWATER LUCY, I had her fron the age of 10 wks, worked on a caged coon and the first nite she went to the woods [at the age of 6 mths ]with the other dogs she split from them when they had treed and went about 100 ft and went to locating she didn`t chop but she came back to us several times while we was looking at the other tree and she would go back to hers, when I went to her tree she had a coon in it, I shot it out to her and from then on she did pretty good. She was a indepent,hardheaded,go younder B&T. Made me buy a tracking outfit to keep up with her. Now all she is, is a shell of the dog she was, at the age of 14 & 1/2 she is on her death bed and every day I dread it when I open the door afraid to find my best friend has passed on. Mike Marcum

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hoosier
he got tired of those dang hunts.he was pounded in them every weekend and a lot of week nites from the time he was 13 mnths old..he got to where he hated them.pleasure hunt him all week and think he was unbeatable,take him to a hunt and he didnt want any part of it.he would do 1 of 2 things.either he wouldnt go hunting,or he would be too grouchy to tolerate.
he did get in the final cast of the 2 pup shootouts he was eligable for and got in the final cast of two world hunts before he got tired of it.
he is 7 now.we put him in one rqe early last summer and won it.i just pleasure hunted him the rest of the summer and only bred a few females thinking he would get his head screwed on straight again.he looked awsome.
by the time fri nite rolled around at the finals ,he was back to wishing he was anyplace but at a nitehunt,as was i.

there have been a couple out of him that i have hunted with that were in the same class.one was killed on the road at 2 years old and the other is just a little over a year old.i cant get my hands on her lol.
right now im hunting a 3 yr old out of him that i like.

tell me,hows that female looking?shes out of cord,right?

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Kewl Elvis,

I understand totally about the hunts then Elvis. Do you think he was entered too young or would it have mattered. May just have been his nature. I guess he & I would get along GREAT. My favorite way to hunt is me, my hound and Mr. Winchester. My hounds ALWAYS look better by themselves than with another dog.

The cord female didn't cut the mustard. I think she would have made a coondog, but didn't have ANY voice. I have been working another young female since last June. She's REALLY young, but is doing awesome. Might put her in the hunts this spring. She's quick, she's accurate and don't think she will leave a tree until the fangs come out...then not sure what she will do, but I have a pretty good idea what will happen !!

Do you know Mark Antrim? He has and loves those Pac-Man dogs. He's got some nice females.

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