Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Rock Island Co. IL
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ik am just wondering if you guys think a pup should be guaranteed if you bring it hom at 2 mo. and you give it its shots as scheduled and at 4 mo. if it gets a disease what does it cover? distemper? parvo? any others? after you drive 17 hrs there and back and pay 300$????? thanks craig ineichen

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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Indiana
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You have to go off the deal you made the day you bought the dog. Did he give you any type of heath guarantee the dayyou bought the dog. If he did it should be real easy to know if what the dog has is covered. Did the guarantee cover what the dog has? If he did not give any type of health guarantee than you are out of luck and that is part of buying pup with no health guarantee.

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I think you baught yourself a pup. Unless the breeder of the pups has a guarantee on the pup that would cover its loss agreed to prior to sell, I don't think it is the breeder's responsability to do anything. I would call the breeder and let him know what happened, but I don't think you would have any right to ask for a refund or a new pup. If they feel the need to make it right with you, they will offer.

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I don't see how it would be the breeders fault if the pup dies after you've had it for two months.

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I think you baught yourself a pup. Unless the breeder of the pups has a guarantee on the pup that would cover its loss agreed to prior to sell, I don't think it is the breeder's responsability to do anything. I would call the breeder and let him know what happened, but I don't think you would have any right to ask for a refund or a new pup. If they feel the need to make it right with you, they will offer.

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I don't see how it would be the breeders fault if the pup dies after you've had it for two months.

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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Greenbackville, VA
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I've only raised one litter of boxer pups... and that is why! Had one we sold cheaper to a guy who "really needed it." Held it for him for 5 weeks past the time he was supposed to pick it up. Told him on the phone the day before he got it, and again the day he picked it up that it had just been wormed and had a set of shots the day before. Warned him not to go home and give him anything else until it was due.
What does he do? Goes straight home and worms the dog with a horse wormer, it's dead that night. Expects a new pup.
That was NOT going to happen! I say he killed the dog, poor pup deserved better then an idiot for an owner.

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Maine
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I typically don't post to whine or complain but this thread is interesting because of a situation that's happening here....and it's one of the reasons I prefer not to sell to pet homes. (I could tell you a few stories about pet home sales but that's not the point of this message).

A pet home bought a pup from one of our litters recently. The day after the family picked up the pup, they took it to their vet for a health check - for their own assurance they were getting a sound, healthy pup. They called me that day to say the pup got a clean bill of health and everything was wonderful.

After a couple months, the honeymoon is apparently over..I receive a frantic email (typed in caps and I really don't like to be yelled at). It said CALL ME ASAP TERRIBLE PROBLEM WITH THE PUPPY. So, I call and find out the pup was back to the vet and put on antiboitics for a bladder infection. I ask a few questions and find out that they took the pup back to the vet because it was peeing 4 times an hour and they believe that is way too much for a young puppy to go to the bathroom.

So a couple weeks pass I hear nothing further until another email comes saying, "puppy is back at the vet - my wife is there now. Call her cell. Things aren't looking good".
Instead of calling the wife at the vet, I call the husband at home to get more info (not wanting to distract the wife while she's with the vet). Husband says, pup is still peeing 4 times an hr. We rushed him to the vet.

I check in with them later than night - vet checks out pup and puts it on another type of antibiotic. (that's 2 office visit charges and 2 meds charges). At that point, I am concerned so ask if bloodwork or any xrays are done. They say no the vet doesn't feel it's that critical - yet. I suggested that if the vet feels that a second type of med is needed on such a young pup, that at a mininum, bloodwork would be in order in my opinion. They disagree.


So, yesterday I get another email....."Pup is slowly getting better but it's going to be a long recovery. Poor Him - no Poor US we are out of paper towels again".

I reply to the email saying if the pup does not meet their expectation and is causing stress on the family, I will take it back - no questions asked. The reply I received was the last one I will take from this person and it was totally uncalled for. He states, "The pup is staying here but I'll let you know if it comes down with leprosy".


Rude, Rude, Rude and totally uncalled for is all I can say.

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I'am with Hobo on this one and Sampsonhillred that's why I will not sell one of my pup's to a {pet home} I will only sell them to poeple that will hunt them if that doe'snt happen I keep them and start them my self then sell them or cull the one's that don't make

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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Rockmart Ga.
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of course he's not gonna pay you back and make it right. HE ALLREADY HAS YOUR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Which, really, is all he's worried about in the first place. 90% of these dog breeders arent worried in the least about you or the puppy after they get your money. And THATS the way it is.

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Location: Virginia
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im with HOBO if hes had the pup 2 months then theres nothin faulty about it pups get parvo regardless...pup must have picked it up at his new home..it can stick around in the ground for yrs.....
as for breeders makin money thats BS unless u have 3-4 litters a yr. i have a litter of 6 week old doberman pups and ive got 5 left out of litter of 12..4 went to homes earlier than rest all r doin well....ive had 3 put down in the last week n half b/c of cocolias? (spell check) others r onb meds now...the mother got mastitis when pups where 4 weeks old...every cent i have gotten deposit wise and payment mise has went for wormings..puppy feed....meds..vets..ect..there is no money in this whatso ever...my femlae is gettin spayed in feb this is my first and last litter......too much stress and work involved....esp for me mom of 5 tryin to deal with pups and kids...thats JMO on the situtaion. lol

PS i have a contrct that goes with puppies...... 100 deposit to hold puppies..non refundable as it goes for shots wormings feed ect. u have to take puppy to vet within 2 days of gettin it. if its sick ill refund ur money ONLY with a statement for ur vet and a check by my vet...or u can get a new puppy.

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Sheep- What are you talking about?

How can you just make irresponsible statements like that with no conscience aobut it? Craig has had the dog for 2 month. How is it the breeders responsibility? And how do you know whatthe breeder really cares about? And were do you come up with your research statistics? 90% huh? The last time Gallop did a survey of coondog breeders that I wa aware of it was more like 57% of breeders only cared about the money.

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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Rockmart Ga.
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all pup sales advertisements in the magazines should be required to have a line at the top of the page that says 4 words............................ we want your money

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likely that you would take up for one of "your own".

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Whatever. You don't know anything about me brother.

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90% of these dog breeders arent worried in the least about you or the puppy after they get your money. And THATS the way it is.

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nother note..i have email addresses and phone numbers as well as mailin addresses of everyone thats bought a puppy form me so i can keep track of it and keep up with its prgress also contract states if they do not want the puppy or cannot care for it it is to come back to me....

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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Rockmart Ga.
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I guess you and colt are in the 10% with some integrity and care for people instead of just money. Congratualtions. Most arent like you guys.

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Okay you got the pup and gave it the shots. But it doesn't sound like you even know what it even disease has. Or are you just saying for instance. Sheep what a dope. how do you expect to ever get a good dog with that attitude.

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oh your right, King Phillip, forgive me for not being thankfull to pay $400 a pop for redtick "coonhound" puppies that would rather go on point than get struck on a coon track. I guess I should be thankfull.....................

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a man can only get "ripped off" so many times before he starts getting wise to the crap ............

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she was gaurenteed to run and tree at 12 months or I could exchange her. He also said if anything out of the ordinary should happen he'd replace her. great guy with great dogs. In your case it really does depend on the circumstances, better deal with someone you trust next time.

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sheep I like that, I need to have my name changed on here. Thank you, King Philip.

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a man can only get "ripped off" so many times before he starts getting wise to the crap ............

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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Rockmart Ga.
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aint lieing, just speakin da truth.

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