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Looks like a nice Black and Tan won the senior supersakes this fall. Congradulations to the owners.

http://www.prohound.com/asp/sboard/...&subid=3231

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Shoot I figured you walker haters would be tooting your horns a little over this one.

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I don't see it as a huge surprise. The odds are that if the B&T breed has 1 in 20 entries, they will win 1 out of 20 hunts....if they are just as good as the other breeds. If they are better, they will win more than 1 in 20, or whatever the ratio is.

But some folks cannot comprehend that and if Walkers win 15 out of 20, then they must be the best-est.

This is the 2nd major win by a B&T this year, remember KS Gem won the truck hunt earlier this year.

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I don't buy the odds factor, it hasn't added up yet.
But will give great credit to the black and tan dog that won.

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John a few months back I went to a hunt 4 walkers and 12 blue dogs = 4 cast with walkers winning them all. What was the odds?
I went to a hunt back in the spring 18 dogs all walkers exept 1 black dog. The black dog was the only one to come in with pluss points. What were the odds? I know that they play a roll but I dont think they play into it that much. Oh ya the black dog was a littermate to the one that this thread is about. Whats that tell you? Good hounds from a good cross NOT ODDS!

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Congratulations to that dog and its owner!

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You don't have to tell me about an outnumbered B&T winning a hunt, Myself and alot of others have been there and done that.

The odds are just plain mathematical facts. Take 1 B&T and 19 Walkers and hunt them in 20 hunts. If the B&T won 1 time and each walker won 1 time, it looks like Walker dominance when in fact, they all have exactly the same win record: 1 win in 20 tries.

Now, let the B&T win TWO times in 20 hunts, TWICE as much as any Walker and see if any Walker followers would admit which breed is better represented. They'd just say Walkers are better because they won 18 out of 20 hunts.

I can't make it any simpler than that.

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Sure did a nice write up on the black dog (not). We read plenty of info on the junior winner though didnt we? lol

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If my dog only wins 2 out of 20 I would be looking for another dog and thats as simple as I can put it

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Congrats to the black dog

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Originally posted by Philip
I don't buy the odds factor, it hasn't added up yet.
But will give great credit to the black and tan dog that won.

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thats a good looking black dog

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Congrats to the black dog.

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Originally posted by John D.


You don't have to tell me about an outnumbered B&T winning a hunt, Myself and alot of others have been there and done that.

The odds are just plain mathematical facts. Take 1 B&T and 19 Walkers and hunt them in 20 hunts. If the B&T won 1 time and each walker won 1 time, it looks like Walker dominance when in fact, they all have exactly the same win record: 1 win in 20 tries.

Now, let the B&T win TWO times in 20 hunts, TWICE as much as any Walker and see if any Walker followers would admit which breed is better represented. They'd just say Walkers are better because they won 18 out of 20 hunts.

I can't make it any simpler than that.

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Congratulations are due any dog that wins regardless of all this statistical analysis bullsnort.

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could someone post skippers 3 generation pedigree?

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could someone post skippers 3 generation pedigree?

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He is out of Rex and High Country Hadie (UKC top reproducers list). Hadie is out of 2 open registered dogs...

Her grandparents are Jar and Ace...

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Originally posted by CountryMile
Sure did a nice write up on the black dog (not). We read plenty of info on the junior winner though didnt we? lol

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