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I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE OLD MEN THAT I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET TO HUNT WITH WHEN I WAS YOUNG THAT NEVER TRIED TO SEE A COON THAT WASN'T THERE OR ANY OF THE OTHER DISHONEST BEHAVIOR THAT HAS BECOME ACCEPTABLE AND COMMON PRACTICE BACK IN THEM DAYS A MAN WOULD BE EMBARRASSED DO THAT SORT OF THING BUT THESE DAYS THE MAN WHO TRYS TO EXPLAIN WHY ITS NOT FAIR TO THE OTHER CAST WHEN YOU PLUS A SPIDER EYE IS THE BAD GUY FOR NOT PLAYING ALONG WITH THE GAME

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If ukc went back to nor hunting judges with integrity like back then the only thing that would happen is all the breeds and clubs and the youth would benefit!!!!!back then those judges told it the way it was and any foolishness you went home!!!!!

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I AGREE, IF WE HAD BETTER JUDGES WITH COMMAN SENCE AND OVER ALL HONESTY I BELIEVE YOU JUST MIGHT SEE A FEW MORE HUNTING THE HUNTS, GOT SO PEOPLE WILL STOPE TO BEND THE RULES FOR THEMSELVES

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So how can we get people with some intergrity back into these positions and can the dishonest ones? Its gotta start somewhere.

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If I get to where I can hunt again you may hunt with me anytime and not feel like your getting shafted. The young guns are gunghoe and all they want out of it is a little yellow slip! Don't ever play dumb with preachers either. I know of one that is nothing but a snake! NUFF SAID

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If I get to where I can hunt again you may hunt with me anytime and not feel like your getting shafted. The young guns are gunghoe and all they want out of it is a little yellow slip! Don't ever play dumb with preachers either. I know of one that is nothing but a snake! NUFF SAID

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I'm 47 hunted a lot of hunts in the eighties and I remember people trying to plus spider eyes, fighting dogs, babblers, unruly handlers, remember the 2 nails taped together with reflecter tape and fishing line to throw up in a tree, guys pitching dogs. None of this is new to the hunts. I think it falls into the same category as the dogs were better way back when. We tend to remember the good times from our past.

Its not whether the judge is a non-hunting or a hunting judge its whether he has the ability to know/understand what dogs are doing and then has the kahunas to make the right call.

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Amen to that Dean.

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I'm 47 hunted a lot of hunts in the eighties and I remember people trying to plus spider eyes, fighting dogs, babblers, unruly handlers, remember the 2 nails taped together with reflecter tape and fishing line to throw up in a tree, guys pitching dogs. None of this is new to the hunts. I think it falls into the same category as the dogs were better way back when. We tend to remember the good times from our past.

Its not whether the judge is a non-hunting or a hunting judge its whether he has the ability to know/understand what dogs are doing and then has the kahunas to make the right call.

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To much buddy system the good non hunting judges take. Care of that yes people been lying and stealing for decades but back then mans word and name meant something still!!!! Ktoday they will sell out. For a yellow slip as far as the dogs being better sme yes some things no but I think the men back then had a lot more integrity than what we got out there today! Jmo I would like to start offering that at our club bit you can't get anybody that wants to do anything these days, face it coon hunters are a dieting breed!!!!!

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You can hold it against me, like I give a good rats *** ! But if you have not seen situations like the kinds that honest people are discussing then who the heck are you? Are you even old enough to remember those days? Hey Preacher??? You really have no clue.

Dean, I think your spot on about the way it really was. Have you ever drawn out, get out to where your going and the judge says,Ok guys there will be no minus trees. If we do then we will be the only cast that comes in with a minus point!

QUOTE]Originally posted by Hey Preacher!!!
I KNOW A SMITH THAT'S A CROOK, SHOULD I HOLD THAT AGAINST YOU??? NUFF SAID!!! [/QUOTE]

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I'm 47 hunted a lot of hunts in the eighties and I remember people trying to plus spider eyes, fighting dogs, babblers, unruly handlers, remember the 2 nails taped together with reflecter tape and fishing line to throw up in a tree, guys pitching dogs. None of this is new to the hunts. I think it falls into the same category as the dogs were better way back when. We tend to remember the good times from our past.

Its not whether the judge is a non-hunting or a hunting judge its whether he has the ability to know/understand what dogs are doing and then has the kahunas to make the right call.

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Hey I really don't mean to sound like I'm trying to down you, or preachers, it's just that we have one here that's a sorry sono***un. I know precisely what these guys are saying and there right!! Any way, I should have not jumped like I did but back in the early to mid eightes it was a major problem. I do believe it is worse now because that money thing is raring its ugly head!!

UOTE]Originally posted by Hey Preacher!!!
I KNOW A SMITH THAT'S A CROOK, SHOULD I HOLD THAT AGAINST YOU??? NUFF SAID!!! [/QUOTE]

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i hunted in the 80 and i thought people cheated bad. and half the dogs wouldnt tree then either i just got back into it 2 years and think the people and the dogs are better. but then i was a kid back then now
im 47 years old 62 and 260 pounds mabey that helps. i have some not very found memories of geting cheated by some men that are considerd icons now i still consider them crap. but i have met some great new guys

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by GA DAWG
Yep. Actually its probably less cheating now as back then.



THE JOKE OF THE DAY !!!!

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Another thing to remember with net/cell phones we hear about incidents in real time, we know who won what right after the big cast, or if something bad happens. In the eighty's you heard but it took a while to circulate . I don't know if its more now than then, but we sure can find out about it a lot quicker.

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I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE OLD MEN THAT I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET TO HUNT WITH WHEN I WAS YOUNG THAT NEVER TRIED TO SEE A COON THAT WASN'T THERE OR ANY OF THE OTHER DISHONEST BEHAVIOR THAT HAS BECOME ACCEPTABLE AND COMMON PRACTICE BACK IN THEM DAYS A MAN WOULD BE EMBARRASSED DO THAT SORT OF THING BUT THESE DAYS THE MAN WHO TRYS TO EXPLAIN WHY ITS NOT FAIR TO THE OTHER CAST WHEN YOU PLUS A SPIDER EYE IS THE BAD GUY FOR NOT PLAYING ALONG WITH THE GAME

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agreed and to be honest i wish they would ban hunting off buckets , make em work for it .

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I'm 47 hunted a lot of hunts in the eighties and I remember people trying to plus spider eyes, fighting dogs, babblers, unruly handlers, remember the 2 nails taped together with reflecter tape and fishing line to throw up in a tree, guys pitching dogs. None of this is new to the hunts. I think it falls into the same category as the dogs were better way back when. We tend to remember the good times from our past.

Its not whether the judge is a non-hunting or a hunting judge its whether he has the ability to know/understand what dogs are doing and then has the kahunas to make the right call.

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You can't worry about being the bad guy for not playing along.

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How 'bout the world famous coonhunter who would keep a small possum [live] stuffed in his carharts? throw him up in the right tree at the right time.
Catching coon in tied up gunny sacks?
I agree, I think it is better now than even 15 years ago.

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How 'bout the world famous coonhunter who would keep a small possum [live] stuffed in his carharts? throw him up in the right tree at the right time.
Catching coon in tied up gunny sacks?
I agree, I think it is better now than even 15 years ago.

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Roger where you from..

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i started hunting in the hunts in the early 70s as a young teen hunting against men i beat them plenty ! why because hunts were 3 hours and the cream always rises to the top. dogs worked as a cast and all silent dogs were scratched thats the biggest difference between then and now today we overlook the rules about open trailors

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agreed, but if u don't play along then you're labeled a trouble maker, and buddy system will do every cheating thing they can to make sure your dog never wins its cast period. most comp hunters know this is how they do it. it it it chit

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