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Hunting Judge. Scoring a Tree
2 vote to circle (one being the hunting Judge)
2 vote to minus
Lets add one
2 Vote Plus(one being hunting Judge)
2 Vote Circle
How is the tree Scored. This didnt happen but was debated at a hunt. I told them I would get UKC's ruling.

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CIRCLE. It takes a majority vote to either plus or minus. in a 4 dog cast a 2-2 vote is always circle.

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hunting judge has no more authority on scoreing a tree than any other cast member.... he scores it like he sees it and if there is a question you vote his vote counts the same as everyone elses... takes a majority to plus or minus

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I agree that a hunting judge vote on a tree has no more weight than any other cast member. That was the point I was trying to make, but they still wanted to debate it. So I told them I would get the UKC take on it.

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Circle. Every day.

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Thanks for all the replies

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CIRCLE. It takes a majority vote to either plus or minus. in a 4 dog cast a 2-2 vote is always circle.

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im glad u posted on here ive often wandered the same thing cause it does come up quite often i always vert back to pkc rules and delete it

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Why would this get circled because in the case of a tie breaker it would factor the out come .Ukc needs to make this a deleted rule two two vote should not be circled because of that.

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Why would this get circled because in the case of a tie breaker it would factor the out come .Ukc needs to make this a deleted rule two two vote should not be circled because of that.

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I'm just saying delete it because that is the fair thing.How would you feel if you had a chance to get in the final round in the world and you got beat because a two two vote and it got circled and that kicked you out.I guess I'm just saying the rule in hand can hurt more than the one cast trying to beat the handlers and not letting the best dog win.

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Originally posted by donaldpeyton
I'm just saying delete it because that is the fair thing.How would you feel if you had a chance to get in the final round in the world and you got beat because a two two vote and it got circled and that kicked you out.I guess I'm just saying the rule in hand can hurt more than the one cast trying to beat the handlers and not letting the best dog win.

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Originally posted by donaldpeyton
I'm just saying delete it because that is the fair thing.How would you feel if you had a chance to get in the final round in the world and you got beat because a two two vote and it got circled and that kicked you out.I guess I'm just saying the rule in hand can hurt more than the one cast trying to beat the handlers and not letting the best dog win.

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It don't have anything to do with pkc you're telling me that a circle tree don't factor in if two people are tied and the tie has to be broke.Let me know the tie breaking procedure please and if I'm wrong I'll say I'm wrong.

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Why would you suggest it be deleted, thay makes zero sense.

How if 2 people say they see a coon and 2 say they don't warrent a delete? You feel the dog doesn't deserve circled?

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No I'm saying only the people on the cast know the truth and that is the only way to keep from cheating everybody else .I just say it should be deleted because it does play a factor in the results and I see it being fair.How do we know wich to is telling the truth if it was there or not.Just like a slick tree two two vote it is going to circle it every time that ain't right and yes a circle tree can't win a cast but it can help win.

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No I'm saying only the people on the cast know the truth and that is the only way to keep from cheating everybody else .I just say it should be deleted because it does play a factor in the results and I see it being fair.How do we know wich to is telling the truth if it was there or not.Just like a slick tree two two vote it is going to circle it every time that ain't right and yes a circle tree can't win a cast but it can help win.

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Originally posted by donaldpeyton
It don't have anything to do with pkc you're telling me that a circle tree don't factor in if two people are tied and the tie has to be broke.Let me know the tie breaking procedure please and if I'm wrong I'll say I'm wrong.

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Yes sir I have if I have 225+ and you have 225+ and you made a slick tree that had a two two vote and it got circled wich one would win.

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LOL if 2 are saying slick and 2 are saying circle what makes you think the 2 voting to minus it are voting legit? Deleted trees are dumb all the way around in my oppinion. Dog struck, dog treed, dog deserves credit of some sort.

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LOL if 2 are saying slick and 2 are saying circle what makes you think the 2 voting to minus it are voting legit? Deleted trees are dumb all the way around in my oppinion. Dog struck, dog treed, dog deserves credit of some sort.

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I'm with donald, delete that sucker.

I lost on a circle tie breaker the other night, doubt it was a two two vote this time of year but it just as easly could have been. In thin coons it goes past the first couple tie breakers more often when you only make 2 trees in two hours.

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It happens a lot more than people think.I didn't mean to stir the pot I was just saying that it shouldn't be circle just because that factors in tie breaking same if two two was minused it still would factor in the tie breaker so delete.

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