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Had a friend come by for a visit today and he asked me what I would have done in this situation that their cast found themselves in.

Without going into great detail, basically they had shined this tree for a few minutes and everyone was satisfied to circle it. After they had all voted, and as they were still marking it down on the card, they found the coon. Some argued that the shine time still wasn't up while others said it stays as originally scored.

So let's hear it, what would you have done. Uncircle or not?

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Uncircle if the shine time wasnt up and the majority could see the coon. Its the right thing to do for the dogs on that tree. What kind of a hunter wants to screw a dog out of his rightfully earned points.

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stays circled

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why would you put a light back in a scored tree?

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I would be incredibly shocked if UKC ever supported uncircling in this situation.

John, UKC has written on this board and in the Advisor on numerous occasions that you cannot score a coon before or after the shinetime starts and ends AND they have said on this board that a tree is considered scored once all cast members have voted. Taking those two positions into consideration, I'm 90% sure UKC will say a tree scored stays scored no matter how much time is left. In fact, once scored, THERE IS NO TIME LEFT.

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Originally posted by JiM
I would be incredibly shocked if UKC ever supported uncircling in this situation.

John, UKC has written on this board and in the Advisor on numerous occasions that you cannot score a coon before or after the shinetime starts and ends AND they have said on this board that a tree is considered scored once all cast members have voted. Taking those two positions into consideration, I'm 90% sure UKC will say a tree scored stays scored no matter how much time is left. In fact, once scored, THERE IS NO TIME LEFT.

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Originally posted by JiM
I would be incredibly shocked if UKC ever supported uncircling in this situation.

John, UKC has written on this board and in the Advisor on numerous occasions that you cannot score a coon before or after the shinetime starts and ends AND they have said on this board that a tree is considered scored once all cast members have voted. Taking those two positions into consideration, I'm 90% sure UKC will say a tree scored stays scored no matter how much time is left. In fact, once scored, THERE IS NO TIME LEFT.

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i think jim is a moh!

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they should have shined the tree a little better

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Some guys try to find a way to circle the tree instead of trying to find the coon. Use the full shine time and you might be surprised at what all you find.

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FYI it stayed circled.

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no way am I gonna settle for circle points when shine time is still running. Circle points should be your last option once shine time is over.

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Originally posted by Rose City
Some guys try to find a way to circle the tree instead of trying to find the coon. Use the full shine time and you might be surprised at what all you find.

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Originally posted by JiM
I would be incredibly shocked if UKC ever supported uncircling in this situation.

John, UKC has written on this board and in the Advisor on numerous occasions that you cannot score a coon before or after the shinetime starts and ends AND they have said on this board that a tree is considered scored once all cast members have voted. Taking those two positions into consideration, I'm 90% sure UKC will say a tree scored stays scored no matter how much time is left. In fact, once scored, THERE IS NO TIME LEFT.

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Originally posted by Big R.D.
they should have shined the tree a little better

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lol

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Originally posted by skeets
lol

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lol lyle. if i had a choice between the two, i would say uncircle till you can uncircle no more.lol

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Originally posted by john Duemmer
Jim your probably right and as soon as a MOH. or a UKC. official tells be that this is a case where we have to ignore what is fair to the dog then i will suport their decision. Until then i will always try to use my vote or opinion to support what is fair to the dog being judged.

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Seems to me unless you are for sure taking minus that you would shine the full 10 and no choice after the 10.

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