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3 dog cast. You turn all three dogs down to the creek no feeder present. dog A strikes first, Dog b strikes 2nd, then dog c strikes. Dog A and dog c tree. Their tree has coon and is plussed. Just as they are being handled from the tree dog b split trees. Dog a and c were turned to him because the judge declared he wasn't tree soon enough. The 5 minutes elapses and dog b is still treed and the other dogs never were treed. Dog b then gets faced barked extremely badly by dog c as hunters are making their way. Dog b leaves just long enough to let the 2 minutes get him. and then is retreed. and dog a falls treed with him during this 5 min. What should've really happen. Should dog a and c even been recut, should dog c been scratched, should dog b's tree been minused, and should dog a got 75 plus for the tree?

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Dogs a & c should not have been recast because dog b was treed before they were released.

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'B' EITHER WAS CALLED TREED BEFORE RECAST OR WAS NOT!!! CAN'T BE BOTH!!! DID THE JUDGE 'SEE' THE AGESSIVE BEHAVIOR??? WHY WEREN'T OTHER DOGS CALLED TREED, FAILURE TO CALL DOGS??? IF DOG 'C' IS AGRESSIVE WHY NOT SAME BEHAVIOR SECOND TIME AROUND???

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Dog A and C were still in the handlers hands when Dog B was declared treed and dog C was the judges dog and all that could be heard was a really growlly sounding bark right at dog B while he was treeing

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You can't scratch em for a really growly sounding bark. If he was treed before while they were on the leash. They can't re cast.

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Dogs A & C should not have been recast.
Dog B gets minused when the two caught him. Even if dog C ran him off, he still gets minused.
Based on " all you could hear was really growly bark" nobody gets scratched.
Dogs A & C would have been scratched for casting with all dogs treed if you had questioned it. You may have had to take it to the MOH and maybe even gone on to a Formal Complaint if the MOH doesn't scratch them but when it FC gets settled, A & C are gone.

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IF dog b was treed ,should a,c been recast?

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Split tree cannot be shined until Judge
arrives. After five minutes, first dog’s tree may be
checked and that dog kept on leash until tree is
scored, then he must be turned loose with other dogs
that are opening on trail and will receive 25 points credit
or discredit as deserved, or next available position.
However, if dog(s) are already treed, handlers have the
option to release dog(s) so long as at least one dog is
still out trailing.
Copied and pasted from UKC nite hunt rules clearly states dogs can only be turned back out if there is a dog still trailing no dog was trailing so they should not have been turned out but I am not sure how this effects dog B it left the tree and there is no proof why so dog b minus tree points Dogs A and C should delete any strike and tree points because they should not have been turned out but turning dog out to a treed dog is not listed under reasons to scratch a dog
This is just one person's opinion

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Can interference be called on a, c for being recast?

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Can interference be called on a, c for being recast?

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BUT DOGS A & C SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN RECAST, THIS HAPPENS BECAUSE PEOPLE DONT NO THE RULES AND LET DUMB CRAP LIKE THIS HAPPEN , ITS AMAZING TO ME HOW LITTLE SOME PEOPLE NO THE RULES

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you can know the rules all you want but if your a kid and its two against one you'll get taken advantage of 9 times out of 10

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your definetly right about that last part but if the dogs cant be seen when the agressive act is taken place then your just screwed and you have to hope your dog can hang with it. I was in a hunt saturday and a little english female jumped all over my dog and was snapping at him. My dog growled back at her even though he shoudn't have and noone got scratched. SHe obviosly started the agression because the other dog in the cadt wouldn't go close to her and she snapped at him when she was handled. People are to chicken to scratch dogs that are mean.

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[B The majority of tue cast voted to scratch the dog for off game even though we never saw the deer. The guy didn't question it but when we got back to the club the Master of Hounds chewed us out for scratching the guy. The Advisor plainly says we where in the right. . [/B]

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Nite Ch cast but it doesn't matter either way offgame = scratch. Many people think you have to see the offgame to scratch but the Advisor says different.

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IF dog b was treed ,should a,c been recast?

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I was asking that question because if it is a registered cast, you dont scratch, you minus the points

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3 dog cast. You turn all three dogs down to the creek no feeder present. dog A strikes first, Dog b strikes 2nd, then dog c strikes. Dog A and dog c tree. Their tree has coon and is plussed. Just as they are being handled from the tree dog b split trees. Dog a and c were turned to him because the judge declared he wasn't tree soon enough. The 5 minutes elapses and dog b is still treed and the other dogs never were treed. Dog b then gets faced barked extremely badly by dog c as hunters are making their way. Dog b leaves just long enough to let the 2 minutes get him. and then is retreed. and dog a falls treed with him during this 5 min. What should've really happen. Should dog a and c even been recut, should dog c been scratched, should dog b's tree been minused, and should dog a got 75 plus for the tree?

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