clc3800
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Registered: Jan 2011
Location: NW GA
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quote: Originally posted by starplott
So, what seems to be the problem, really? If he has been hunted 75% of the time alone and looked good to you...why must he be fixed to hunt to your standards with other dogs? Are you going to comp hunt him?
Pleasure hunters who seem to hunt for pleasure and then get bent when their dog doesn't hunt like a comp dog is nothing new. It is same w retrievers and upland game dogs. As is expecting more out of a dog than what they put in.
So, call me blonde, but where is the problem that needs fixed with the DOG? You have a 3 yo dog you JUST started and he's not independent around other dogs when he's been mostly hunted alone?
Doesn't sound like a dog problem, sounds like an owner problem (expecting too much from a green dog in situations he has not had much experience in).
Dogs are PACK animals by nature. You are asking a 'puppy' in all sense but age, to hunt like a finished dog for starters. He's been hunted mostly alone. Of course he is going to pull and see what the commotion is elsewhere. He lacks confidence and if you are hunting him with more confident dogs he is going to pull until he has that confidence to stand alone.
Either way keeping him in the woods is where he is going to figure out what kind of dog he is going to be. As a 3 yo with a season under his belt, he's already behind in the game. If he is consistently catching coon on his own and you aren't having trash races, you are doing good for one season.
You can't expect a dog to hunt like a 3 yo when he has the experience of a yearling.
Well first let me say thank you. You seem to be knowledgeable and I may be getting the cart ahead of the horse so to speak. I guess I just expect him to act his age even though he started a little late (as a 2 year old). It just seems to me like later starting hounds come on a little faster once they do start, (that is if they are going to make it at all) because they are through with alot of the stupidness that comes with pups. I did not however start him late on purpose, that is just how I got him. I hope you are right though, maybe after another season he will become more confident around other hounds. He sure is a pleasure to hunt alone though. He don't care about trash other than an occasional grinner, checks back if he don't strike, trees a coon if he does strike, tone broke, no babbling, but he gets RETARDED when you cut him with another dog.
As for why I want him "fixed"- I haven't hunted him so much alone on purpose. I hunted him alone because he's all I had to hunt at the time and he needed to be in the woods. Also, I do have friends that have hounds as well, and I really hate for him to look so bad with their dogs even though I know he can tree coon alone. He's not really a comp type of hound and I sure don't want him to be exposed to a tree gator at this point, but I would like to be able to pleasure hunt him with my friends. I'm not opposed to comp hunting at all, I just think you need a certain type dog for it and he needs to be ready before you put him in the hunts. The pup I am training now will be a good one for the hunts (I think).
Anyway, I am not a newbie to the sport but I have been out of the loop for a while as I didn't hunt for about 10-12 years and I know alot of you guys have learned alot since the '90's when I was hunting before.
Thanks for all the help guys.
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