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Coon Bite

I would like to find out what the best way to clean up a coon bite on my hound when he gets bite again.

The other night my hound stuck a track and had a heck of a race in a wheat field ,well he ended up catching the coon on the ground. He was bit on the ear and a couple of small places on his face. I cleaned them up when I got home, they did not look that bad.

So much for my vet career, BOB now has a swollen head with 2 drain tubes hanging out of his head and my wallet is much thinner and he is laid up for several weeks.

Thanks for any info on what to do next time

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sorry to hear about your hound....did you use antiseptic when you cleaned them? is the problem an infection? wonder what the old timers would have done?

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Go to your vets

Get yourself a bottle of cephylexin pills and give them to him after he gets bit again. Give for 10 days,twice a day till gone. Have your vet dose him with the right mg according to his wieght. Problem solved!!

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I had a dog get copperhead bite on the foot one time, and my grand pa told me to mix raw egg, milk, bacon grease together and give it to him to eat, and then take a bottle of turpintine (?spelling) over top of the bite, and that sucks the poison out. We did just that, and his foot did swell up, and the bite marks rotted out a little bit, but in a week or so it started to heal up and he was fine. Ol' timers have the best remedies. Good Luck w/ your hound hope he is back in the timber soon....

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my pup got his foot sliced open bad n i was also told to feed him a raw egg. we use blu-kote on cuts. works like a liquid bandaid. healed him up real quickly.

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I assume the dog was up to date on all shots?

I always keep a jar of Cut-Heal in my dog box. It's not just a topical ointment it's also an anti-septic and medication.

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Thanks

The Vet has him on antibotics for 14 days hopefully they are going to take the drain tubes out tomorrow.


The vet told me the small bites were the worst because the close up fast and don't bleed enough to wash the bacteria out.

I got some liquid penicillin i am going to give him next time, along with some eggs.


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Turpentine! have used it for bites for over 30 years

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Turpentine! have used it for bites for over 30 years


Turpentine and bagbalm or diesel fuel or absorbine horse linament.

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Nothing. In 40 years I never had one swell. I don't even look to see if they are cut. Ears even quit squirting in thirty minutes or so. Just lucky I guess. If one ever does swell I would do something about it afterthefact. I stay current on rabies shots though.

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I'm with you I don't even clean him up until atleast the next day. If I doctored him after every cut or bite I'd be in the hole for repair bills

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Turpentine and bagbalm or diesel fuel or absorbine horse linament.


diesel fuel...OMG a vet would probably be cheaper...LOLOLOL

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I give mine a shot of combiotics and spray the purple stuf on the wond. My walker tor a hole in her chest on a fence that was big and deep. The vet cut off the hanging flesh, gave her some antibiotics and had me put triple antibiotic ointment on it for a few days then spray it with the purple stuff once a day. Two weaks and the hole that was a triangle about an inch and a half on the three sides and half inch or more deap is all but healed and will get to hunt this weakend. Everything is healed but a spot about the size of the end of your little finger.
You can find it at tractor supply or any farm store. The farmers have used it since I was a kid. They spray it on every thing from a cow when they cut there horns off to spraying them after they casterate the bulls.

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quote:
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Nothing. In 40 years I never had one swell. I don't even look to see if they are cut. Ears even quit squirting in thirty minutes or so. Just lucky I guess. If one ever does swell I would do something about it afterthefact. I stay current on rabies shots though.
I agree. Find a bottle of something with high alcohol content. Tie your dog up. Spend the next couple of nights with that bottle. When the bottle is empty, sober up. Then go hunting the next night.

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I agree. Find a bottle of something with high alcohol content. Tie your dog up. Spend the next couple of nights with that bottle. When the bottle is empty, sober up. Then go hunting the next night.

I agree. If it ever happens in the next 40 years I might change my ways and you can say you told me so. Otherwise it is like a beekeeper running to medicine cabinet for a bee sting. He's talking coon bite for goodness sakes, not Black Panthers. He had bad luck but I doubt a dribble of peroxide or even high alchohol will do anything but make someone "feelgood" about doing "something" if it was going to get infected. (edit)LOL and I just thought of this one! If he was not going to get infected anyway, then you could give yourself a double "FEELGOOD" for "saving" him. Just amaising how Liberal cannonade cannot lose.

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Re: Go to your vets

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Get yourself a bottle of cephylexin pills and give them to him after he gets bit again. Give for 10 days,twice a day till gone. Have your vet dose him with the right mg according to his wieght. Problem solved!!


Notice that he said after he gets bit again and I believe he meant to add , and when he FIRST starts showing signs of infection not after his head swells up a while. You said you had liquid Pennecillin for the next time. Both are great drugs but if you give them real antibiotics every time he gets bit and 99+% he ain't going to get infected anyway, What are you going to give when he does get infected? Those obviously won't work anymore because they have been used too much. I mean unless he only gets bit once a year. I'd rather have a dog immunity built up from getting bit regular than one that has no immunity because of all the drugs. My opinion still is: that night , nothing, unless his eye is torn (get him to a vet). Next day, have a look, if looks funky use the topical antiseptics. Next day, if not improving, but not worse, more topical, Next day , if worse even dime size or off color or odor, Start the real drugs. Give that two days and get him to a vet fast if not improved. Hematomas are blood trapped between tissues that can't get out, mostly in the ear, so let it out or better yet keep the hole open. It looks like a swelling but it is soft. Again I have never had a problem from a coon bite but I have had hematoma or two on my males that were trying to make love to a bitch I was trying to breed.

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I had ones head swell up the size of a basketball once after a coon got her..Took my knife and drained it A FEW TIMES..Gave pen for 10 days and she was good to go.

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I had ones head swell up the size of a basketball once after a coon got her..Took my knife and drained it A FEW TIMES..Gave pen for 10 days and she was good to go.
I am Old Timey by virtue of reality. Nobody yet mentioned Black Salve Ointment, how does it work to suck the pizon out? Maybe we need somebody old timier than we. Any way, the old timers I knew did not mess with something that should be lanced with Black Salve, it was always something down within that needed excommunicating. LOL.
Which reminds me of the first visit from our new preacher what went across the highway to the only store and a kid was sitting on the loafers bench with a little bottle turning it upside down and watchin the bubble run up. So the preacher sat beside him and pulled out a bottle and watched the bubble run up. Now this here was a educated preacher in the ways of phycology. Towrectly, shonuf , the kid axed what itwas an de preacher declared "this here is a bottle of Holy Water , You can rub a drop of it on a pregnant woman's Belly and she'll pass a Baby Boy. The kid didn't say anything but the preacher had been taught by the salesmen that be to shut up because the first one that speackes has done bought the Insurance Policy. Towrectkly , the kid says , Preacher,"this here is turpentine. You can rub a drop of it under a threecolored cats tail and she'll pass a motorcycle.

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Treat it just like a human cut. Betadine or hydrogen peroxide (preferably betadine) and clean it good. Put some neosporin on it and keep it clean. Works every time (Unless the coon has some kind of crazy disease I guess lol) My dogs always seem to get cut and gashed open someohow (coons, barbedwire, bad luck..... vehicles lol) I'm a nurse. This is how we treat stuff and it works.

By the way, the above is not in reference to snake bites lol

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My terriers will get a little too close to a coon or fox sometimes.
I flush the wounds immediately with saline in a spray can, which gets down into the bite wounds well.

Then when we get home, I put dry cow mastitis antibiotic ointment down in the holes until it runs out. I fill them up. You can get this stuff at TSC or other farm supply stores. It's cheap. It comes in a big syringe with a small tip on it. A box of 12 runs about $15. It goes a long way. I keep the wounds open by using hot wet compresses on them and will use the dry cow stuff a couple of times if the bites are really bad.

And I put them on amoxicillin pills for a week.

Never had a problem with a bite getting infected, coon bite or fox. Fox have filthy mouths, too.

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Main thing to not do is don't put peroxide on anything you want to put stiches in later. The purple stuff I mentioned in the first posts name is Wound Kote. It is an antiseptic and germicidal spray. Neosporin is great for a antibiotic ointment to put on it. You can get it at walmart. It is the same thing is the triple antibiotic ointment.

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The bite mine had was just barely bleeding. I never thought a thing about it..Aint like she was gushing blood with a 5" gap.. I dont know about yall but I dont check mine from head to tail every time I put them back in the pen lol... What solved my problem is just shoot the coon out dead. Want bite nothing then

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Most coon bites (and fox bites) are not huge wounds on the surface, but they are deep and that is what can cause infections. Your vet is not going to want to suture a bite wound closed. If it's a long slash, then maybe a couple of sutures or staples to hold it closed somewhere around the middle would be ok, but bite wounds need to be open to drain.

One of my terriers, Bailey, got absolutely rim-wrecked by a fox when we were 1000 miles from home. She had slashes and puncture wounds both. One place was a triangular tear on her cheek as big as the end of my index finger. It was not all the way through to her mouth, but it gapped open. This was on a 12 pound dog, ok?

I treated her as I just described, hot compresses, cow mastitis ointment (penicillin) squirted into the holes, and antibiotic pills, for two days before we left for home. I also made a vet appointment before we took off, because I didn't know what shape she would be in when we got back and I didn't want to have to wait for the following day for her to see the vet, if things didn't look good. I took her in and the vet looked at her and asked me what I had done. She told me that she could not have done better with treatment. She said she'd never sew that gapping triangle wound shut, since it was a bite wound. My girl healed up fine, a few small scars, but that's it. And she had been a mess.

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I am Old Timey by virtue of reality. Nobody yet mentioned Black Salve Ointment, how does it work to suck the pizon out? Maybe we need somebody old timier than we. Any way, the old timers I knew did not mess with something that should be lanced with Black Salve, it was always something down within that needed excommunicating. LOL.
Which reminds me of the first visit from our new preacher what went across the highway to the only store and a kid was sitting on the loafers bench with a little bottle turning it upside down and watchin the bubble run up. So the preacher sat beside him and pulled out a bottle and watched the bubble run up. Now this here was a educated preacher in the ways of phycology. Towrectly, shonuf , the kid axed what itwas an de preacher declared "this here is a bottle of Holy Water , You can rub a drop of it on a pregnant woman's Belly and she'll pass a Baby Boy. The kid didn't say anything but the preacher had been taught by the salesmen that be to shut up because the first one that speackes has done bought the Insurance Policy. Towrectkly , the kid says , Preacher,"this here is turpentine. You can rub a drop of it under a threecolored cats tail and she'll pass a motorcycle.



Hi-larious!!! Now that right there is worth the price of admission!!!

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