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I've hunted a couple out of Trackman that had nice locates. I've been told that my male out of Nitro has a darn easy one to call.

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i had a pup out of charley creek edge that had the sweetest locate i ever heard......

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I LIKE A LOCATE THAT I CAN TREE MY DOG ON,( HEAR THE LOCATE TREE MY DOG) NOT WHEN THEY TURN IT OVER. ------HUTCH

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My Sadie gyp has a nice squal with a chop at the end and my blaze dog ether has a triple chop locate and a triple bawl locate those are the best I've heard

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IF YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE TURNOVER TO A CHOP IT WILL BE TOO LATE IN MOST HUNTS IF YOUR DOG IS NOT ALONE FOR THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE CAST WILL CATCH ON QUICK AND TREE THEIR DOG.
Not if you hunt a fast track dog or semi silent one..I can usually tree mine off her locate if things are tight..If not I usually wait one one chop myself.

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I've got a female here, and her full brother (who is now deceased) that sound EXACTLY like Cold Sweat when they locate. He's got a nice one for sure! First time I watched treedtv, my boyfreind was watching tv and overheard the computer, he said "what video of Kelly is that??" LOL, and he knows his dog pretty well. Too bad she can't tree a coon, but she'll throw a locate out like that Bear hunting, and her brother would throw a triple locate that was something else.

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Trackman and Coldsweat both have Awsome locate barks!! Also the Grand slam dog curt own that's out of cold sweat has a good locate!

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Well he's not out there anymore but Minklers Kansas Thunder had the best locate I ever heard, nothing else even close.

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I like that dieing locate that just drowns all the other dogs out in the cast and everyone there just looks at each other, and asks, who's dog is that!??!

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Russell Boyette
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I always hesitate to answer a question like this with a dog that I own, because I always feel like it'd be too much like bragging. To truthfully answer this question tho, I have to say my PKC CH Triple X-Rated dog has the best locate I've ever heard. He's off GRNTCH Xjr's Silver Dollar Cracker x NTCH Credit River KC(Credit River Tucker). He'll turn 6yrs old on May 5th, & he lost some mouth because the guy that kept him while I was in the hospital nearly all of 2009, kept him on a chain, & there's something about being on a chain he hates with a passion. He doesn't cut-up or anything, but barks(I believe anyway) out of boredom. He still has a dang good mouth, but's before he barked it off, hearing him get hooked would make the hair on the back of your neck stand straight up! Honest to goodness, I've never taken him to a hunt, what he wasn't the loudest dog in a cast, by far most of the time. Matter of fact, the last hunt I won with him before I got sick, after the casts had been called-out & all of us had walked over to find our judge/guide, 1 of the handlers on the cast saw "X" on the card, & told the rest of the cast, "**** fellas, it's going to be a long night." When 1 of the other handlers asked him why, he pointed me out & said, "Cause we won't be able to hear our dogs over his, to be able to call 'em." If "X" hadn't been so tight, & opened more on the ground, listening to him would've been something else! I wish I could figure out how to download video's from my camera to my computer. I've got a couple video's from when he was about 1.5yrs old, that catch his locate, & have some awesome footage of him treed. I had to back away 25-30yds from the tree & zoom-in on him because he treed so loud & hard that it'd cause the speakers to distort.

As far as treeing a dog off of a 1/2 a locate, I've heard handlers brag about doing it alot everywhere but in the woods. I could tree him on the 1st locate some, but he's a lay-up dog, & if the coons hadn't been down yet, u could hear him start looking up. Unless u knew him as well as I do, u'd draw some tree-minus 'cuz when he was looking-up, trying to pin-point a Ricky that was laid-up sleeping, it'd sound pretty similar to his locate.

Most people that brag about booking a dog on 1/2 a locate, are usually full of it. I've heard some pro handlers that'd brag about doing it at the club, or on the computer, but it's a different story when they're in the woods. That kinda handling more often than not, will end-up biting u in the ass, & they know it. Sometimes if u are in a position where u have to take 1st tree, then u've gotta take that chance. Very few accurate dogs out there that are hooked solid the 1st time they bark up. Now, I don't mean all accurate dogs take 5min's to decide they're right, but most of 'em are gonna be sure Ricky's home before they commit, & that's usually why they're more accurate. Most dogs I know of that are glued to the 1st tree they hit-up on by their 1st bark up, on every tree of everynight, wind-up missing a bunch of coons. At least in this part of the country. Now, I can't say the same for dogs in parts of states like Iowa, indiana, or Michigan where most woodlots are jam-packed, full of coons, because I carried "X" to the White River Refuge in Arkansas, where the coons are so thick they can't be stirred with a boat-oar. He was treeing a buncha lay-ups there too, but he was picking out the trees they were in so fast that if we'd been in a hunt, I could've struck him on his 1st bark & treed him on his 2nd. But that's just not the case down here.

Anyway, it's not that I don't have confidence in my dog, 'cuz even tho I might not have a sho-nuff COONDOG, & may not even have the best dog in my cast, but u can be 100% sure if u see me forking-over a $20-$100 entry fee, that whatever dog I'm hunting don't have to check a tree half a dozen times to know he/she is right, nor will I be wasting my money & time on a dog that never walked past a tree that they didn't lock-down, treed on, either!

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jculler- I got a Fightin side female that has one of those! My 5 yr old can call her! chop___chop BAAAWWWLLL chopchopchopchop!!! Its great!

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IF YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE TURNOVER TO A CHOP IT WILL BE TOO LATE IN MOST HUNTS IF YOUR DOG IS NOT ALONE FOR THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE CAST WILL CATCH ON QUICK AND TREE THEIR DOG.


i have hunted with 2 dogs that had nice locates nt ch. hambys dancer (walker) and gr nt ch shortridges hustler (plott) neither were as good as trackman or cold sweat, but they also threw a little different locate when they hit water that would definetely punish other handlers calling them. i just dont know if all dogs with a nice locate do this

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GOT ME A 8YR. MALE LOST SOME OF HIS VOICE TOO MANY NIGHTS TREED ALL NIGHT BUT MOST GUYS KNOW AFTER 1 TREE WHO'S GOT A TREE DOG AND YES YOU CAN TREE HIM OFF HIS LOCATE GOOD LAYUP DOG AND DID I FORGET TO SAY STRAIGHT AS THEY COME AND GOOD LOOKIN TOO HOUSEBROKE FAULTS HATES A DOG BOX WITH EVERY BREATH AND GOES TOO DEEP!!!

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Jason Baldwin
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I love my dog's locate , its sounds really nice. But the main thing about a locate bark is if you can count on it. I can count on my dog's locate bark. I may be wrong, 1 time out of 10 he may change his mind, But I like my odd's on that. He bawls on track with a clear, loud, smooth ball. His locate bark starts off just like a regular track bark but halfway through the bark it just gets WAY WAY WAY deeper all of a sudden. Then he does that over and over usually 5 or 6 times. He is out of Lipper's stylish cade and I have been told he gets that from the lipper side.

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Justin Smith
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My gyp has a good one , not the biggest or longest ... but she sure sticks it and she's the only dog I've heard that goes up an octave on her locate instead of down .... you can heard that locate even when the dogs have been out of hearing on track ...


Her brother has a bigger , longer locate than her ... that dude is something else ... the whole litter had big locates..

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Interesting to hear the different criteria for a top locate. Myself, I've had a couple that would stand the hair on the back of your neck on end and one that would melt you right into your wick waders.........the longest, most mournful locate you ever heard. Those are the ones that have made treeing coon just a little more special.

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Joe Newlin had a female named Ruby of Clovers Oz and Mark Warners Dawn feamle that had an awesome locate. She also wasn't shy about using it. Might locate 30 times then roll over to hard hard chop. Could usually tree her on the 3rd one.

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my little female off OLE SOUTHS STYLISH LEE has a pretty nice locate. iv'e saw the other dogs in a few casts come running to her tree a few times when she throws her locate,sometimes that big eared dog cant resist.

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......my buddies one year old out of High-Xpectations and a Grand Night female I used to own................1 bark locate.............he's stayin' if you hear it..................and it ain't hard to hear........lol

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my male has a three ball locate but if you dont know it some will try to tree there dog off of it but there are very small differences in it . usually by hisself so it doesnt matter how long he takes to settle in . hes not a quite one either . i love that kind of locate , just enough to mess another handler up .

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Magic Trick handled by Ronnie Bone had one of the best locates I have ever heard. I have heard many many dog with pretty decent locates. I have yet to own a dog that did not throw a locate when they knew they were right. Some were just better then others. My little Grand Nite female throws a beautiful locate that sounds very similar to Cold Sweat. She gets about twice as loud and holds her bark out for about 5 to 6 seconds and she does it 2 to 3 times. It's music to my ears because I know what she will have when she locates.

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THE BEST LOCATE I HAVE HEARD AROUND HERE WAS FROM A MALE OUT OF TRACKMAN. TO THIS DAY HE IS THE LOUDEST YET.

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The Best Locate I ever heard was on my OLD Sara PEARL dog.
she is now passed away, but she alwayse located with a fast Tripple Chop.
I would hear that and know that she was there to stay.

After the Tripple chop she would break over into a steady chop.

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The best voice bar none I have ever heard on a hound was a plott I owned back in 1979 and 1980.

He had a huge bawl mouth, but his locate was like no other. He would start with a tremendous bawl that would would so slowly draw out to a whisper. You would hear about 2 seconds of silence and then you would hear a loud chop mouth that you would swear was spit out by a timer ... I mean he never ever missed a beat.

His locate would last so long I would find myself saying take a breath take a breath.

I kid you not each and every time I heard that dog row that big locate over and draw it out the hairs would stand straight up on the back of my neck.

I have never experienced a voice remotely close since.

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