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john Duemmer
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I dont think nose makes much difference, just about any dog of any breed has enough nose to track a coon. They are stinky little critters and they travel close to the ground.

Where the difference comes in is whatever connects the nose to the brain and the desire to get the job done. I believe a dog that you would consider a hot nosed dog in one area might be a coldnosed dg in a diferent area. The dog im hunting now is the perfect example, most would consider her a hot nosed dog because she never screws with an old track and when she opens she is usually treed withi 10 minutes, she covers alot of ground and has figured out what works in my area with alot of coon. BUT i have also seen this same dog wind a layup off the lead 300 yards across a cornfield and drift into that tree and lockup so is she cold nosed or hot nosed?

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Jerry Moll
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How efficiently a hound gets their tracks to the correct tree is far more important to me than trying to determine if the dog has a so called “cold nose” or “hot nose”. I love a dog that will RUN a track hot or cold, but I can’t and won’t tolerate a ground pounder.

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You mean them "cold" nosed dogs Jerry

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quote:
Originally posted by john Duemmer
........ when she opens she is usually treed withi 10 minutes, she covers alot of ground and has figured out what works in my area with alot of coon. BUT i have also seen this same dog wind a layup off the lead 300 yards across a cornfield and drift into that tree and lockup so is she cold nosed or hot nosed?


What's the difference between running a "hot" track and smelling scent coming straight from the coon?
Just because a dog can wind a coon from a distance doesn't mean it has a cold nose. LOL
Or , maybe it does. Maybe I don't know the difference. LOL

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I don't believe in old bad tracks and I can't tolerate dogs that try to "run"////"trail" these bad tracks.

If a dog doesn't have enough sense not start something it can't handle I can't waste my time hunting it.

A good 20 minute race is okay every now and then but if it happens once a night I will be owning something else.

John, youre dog sounds like a dog for me lol

It's not that said "hot" nosed dogs can't run those old bad tracks, many of them just have got the sense to go on!

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Majestic Tree H
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quote:
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but I can’t and won’t tolerate a ground pounder.


This is More a Undesirable Trait then a Indication of a "Cold Nose"

But they must be able to track over Bare Rock in low humidity Areas of the US which can be a rather Slow moving Experience .

But not in a Green and Rich Enviroment !!

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Larry Atherton
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This statement about a cold-nosed dog treeing coon in the winter time (and a hot-nosed dog can't) makes me believe about 90% of the coonhunters out there don't know the difference between the two. LOL



Bob,

I have felt my dog's noses in January and they are usually cold.

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Yeah I always like mine to have cold-to-the-touch noses too.

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Iwant a dog to take a track he can tree in one to two minutes.- want him to open on every track he crosses on his way to the hot one. I don't care how far he has to go. I have a truck and tracker. Probably won't be near as far as my deer dogs anyway.

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jackbob42
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Bob,

I have felt my dog's noses in January and they are usually cold.



LOL

It just cracks me up Larry when people think you can't tree coon with a hot-nosed dog in the winter. LOL
They think that just because their dog treed a coon in the snow that it just has to be a cold-nosed dog. LOL
They just can't seem to figure out that air temp does not determine whether a dog is cold-nosed or not.

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Justin Smith
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A dog gets 99% of his information about coon from his nose ... you can't have too much nose .

The right combination of nose , brains and drive never comes across as being " cold " or " hot" .... you just have this consistant coon treeing dog that doesn't take a back seat to anyone.

All things being equal .. the best nose wins .

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notanuf347
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I dont think its alot of differance in the nose as to how its trained. What i call a bucket dog dont like cold tracks and will look for a hotter track as a dog that dont see bucket coons will most of the time take the firt one hot or cold it comes across.

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VA.REB
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ALL THREE

IT TAKES ALL 3. BRAINS. DESIRE. NOSE. GOD BLESS YALL ALL.

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