So I am beginning to see a habit forming in my dog that I am not very pleased with. It seems that every time I take her out coonhunting she thinks she is a Monkey. When I walk into the tree I tree her on I find her halfway up the darn thing boo hoo'ing away. When I try to get her back down she freezes up stiff on me and it causes for some pretty hairy situations of either her or I getting seriously injured if we were to fall. Can I please get some suggestions that would be useful in getting her to stop her Monkey'ish ways! I've never had a dog climb trees on me before and I don't know where to begin in training her to stop monkeyin around. Help!!!!
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It is like a death sentence for the dog or serious injury to yourself or the dog...I have one that started doing this and the only thing I have done is dremel the nails all the way back, He hasn't climbed since but maybe he hasn't found the right tree again.
When I have a climber to deal with, I shock them out of the tree. You have nothing to lose; they will eventully either kill or maim themselves. Some will eventually adjust and no longer climb. Tom
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So my options are cut her nails (which are trimmed) or shock her off the tree. If I shock her off the tree won't that discourage her from treeing all together? This dog is really sensitive and I have only shocked her a handful of times. She is really intelligent and I don't want to do any destructive damaging by shocking her around trees while she is treed. I may use this as a last source...
Anyone else got any suggestions? I thought that maybe if I just left her up there and paid her no attention that she would eventually have to come down the tree and it might make her think twice next time she wants to climb one, knowing that I'm not going to come to her rescue.
Anyone have any other ideas?
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You aren't reading this right...I mean ALL the way back not a trim job,,,thatwhy I used the Dremel less blood or go to the vet and have him knock him out and cauterize them....the above post is right to,,,sooner or later the will kill or maim itself,,,I wouldnt be afraid to shock him out, hell mine has ran the coon out the tree and then got himself stranded in the tree....
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My 1st question for you is do you allow your dog to run & jack the tree? Many times thats the start of problems. You might consider taking her to the vet & have her front du-claws removed, that way she cannot hook them in if she jumps to get started. I had this done to one of mine, & then took him out the same night so he could try to jump up & hook that tree all he wanted. Didn't take long to stop once he realized how much it hurt when he tryed! Beauty of it is your not even to the tree so she won't associate it with you. Worth a try! JMO
quote:Originally posted by pigsit When I have a climber to deal with, I shock them out of the tree. You have nothing to lose; they will eventully either kill or maim themselves. Some will eventually adjust and no longer climb. Tom
You're not shocking her "OFF THE TREE", you are making it uncomfortable for her to be in the tree. Put your tritronics on the first level and gently bump her until she decides she would rather be on the ground than in the tree. A few years ago Robby Hall and I had a female that was leading the state race; she liked to climb, one night she fell out and broke her back. That is not a pretty sight; a tragic end for a good hound. I prefer shocking them to burying them. Just my preference. Tom
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I had a climber that was pretty careful how he came down. I almost never helped him down. He always looked around for the safest way out--jump into water, jump up hill, even drop through where branches would break his fall if that was the best option. He got better and better at climbing pretty fast--started out climbing apple trees, ended up shinnying up(and sliding down) limbless ash trees. Used his mouth a lot to grab branches above him while climbing up and down. Leaving him up there did nothing to discourage him.
Tree climbing is one of those things that's hard to break. Unfortunately, a lot of the ones that do it have above average drive.
I appreciate the advice. Her nails are as short as they are going to get. I fear the damage it would cause if I were to shock her on tree. She is only a little over a year and I haven't shocked her but a few times. The problem that is happening is that she has a lot of drive. She is using her nose and concentrating so heavy on the scent that she loses focus as to where the scent is taking her. The trees that she is climbing are slanted so it makes it real easy for her to just walk right up without having to jump or climb. Then she comes back to reality and realizes that she is 15 feet high in a tree and she freezes. I can always tell when she is stuck in a tree by the way she cries in her bawls.
I don't know what to do. I'm left scratching my head something fierce. I really don't want to have to shock her from the tree, even if I did shock her while she is in the tree I see it just further scaring her stiff and being even more discouraged to get down.
There has got to be a better solution. I'm just hoping somebody will get on my thread and post some miracle suggestion that I haven't thought of.
Remove the dew claws. If you hunt Cedars and Oak that can still be climed it will still help. I like the idea of hunting the dog when they are still healing to some extent, and not so much with others... I had the same problem with a young dog earlier this year and removing the dew claws resolved a lot of the issue.
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well removeing the due claws would work if u think bout it it just liek removing our thumbs thats wat they are getting the stick from if they dont have it that most of the time they wont be able to climb caus ethey cant stick to the tree very well usless its a slanted tree that even i can climb
I think that UT Blues just gave me some hope. I really like the suggestion to remove the duclaws. I don't think this will discourage her from climbing but at least it is a preventative. Thank you all for the help.
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quote:Originally posted by Sicem'more Ash I think that UT Blues just gave me some hope. I really like the suggestion to remove the duclaws. I don't think this will discourage her from climbing but at least it is a preventative. Thank you all for the help.
I don't know what duclaws are, but consider what UT blues suggested and remove her dewclaws.
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i have watched my own dog fall 60 foot out of a tree and the way she was falling i said o well there goes 1,500 dollars down the drain. but i got lucky and she survived with no problems now duncan kline wasn't as lucky as i was his didn't survive. these people aren't talking about trimming her toe nails cut them completely off if they don't have toe nails they can not climb, climbing is probally one of the hardest things to ever break. good luck with it.
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I would talk to my vet and explain your problem,see if he cant take those nails off right back to her toes. that should solve the problem. removing the dew claws probably wont make a difference. The dewclaws are an evolutionary remnant of what would be thumbs.
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