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Janet Ford
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SOUND OFF! HSUS's 'Fact Sheet' on hound hunting

http://www.hsus.org/wildlife_abuse/...nd_hunting.html

Ludicrous!

Not shocking coming from the HSUS but still frustrating.

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The site offers zero ways to contact them. That means they have hate mail. Also means they are the minority.

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The fact that they are turning the use of tracking equipment as something other than a RECOVERY SYSTEM to find our dogs we care for is ridiculous!! If you read other samples on the site it has us the hunters turning dogs lose and just tracking them till they do whatever don't know about yall I don't hunt like that! Sorry to ramble but just hate you spend all this $ to keep them out of harms way and they turn it around as something completely different!

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I'm currently writing a rebuttal article. The first thing I addressed is the tracking collars. I'm working on the rebuttal for the bear issue. While John has two bear mounts proudly displayed in our living room, he has not hunted them with hounds.

Calling them the minority is false, however. WE are quickly becoming the minority if we do not step up to the plate soon. Did you realize HSUS was the largest financial backer of John Kerry. They have the money to do a lot of damage and they know the language to use to manipulate people into believing in their proposed agendas.

I'm sure hate mail is one reason for the lack of contact info but the other reason would be that the only contact they want from you is where you open your wallet and they reach in.

Won't be the first time I ruffled HSUS feathers. I look forward to doing it again!

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Of all people, my vet who is a country, large animal doc jumped me about the use of a tracking collar on my coonhound. He asked whether I thought their use is unethical. This tells me he's been fed misinformation on the subject. I was quiet for a moment and then explained that my dog has a big bawl mouth and I don't need a collar to find him treed under game. It's the nights coons are not running and my dog can get out of pocket that I need a recovery system for his safety. He didn't say more on the subject.

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What a flippin' crock of crap! Maybe we should ban together and rip their lying butts to the woods for a REAL hunt once.

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Janet Ford
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Let your voices be heard... I'm going to link to this discussion from my article. Shout out the truth!

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It's only going to get worse folks. Obama's Regluatory czar, the man who sets LAWS AND POLICY for all of the Govt ran agency's believes that hunting and eating meat should be phased out and eventually banned in America. He also believes that animals should be allowed to sue humans in a court of law.

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Originally posted by Lee Stocking
The site offers zero ways to contact them. That means they have hate mail. Also means they are the minority.

Actually there is a "contact us" link at the bottom of their page. I clicked on it and started to respond, but then thought better of it. I will respond, but my momma always said not to respond in anger. So I'm gonna take some time to simmer down and then respond in an intelligent factual way, instead of being emotional about it. I don't want to give them any more ammo against us by them being able to point out my rebuttal as an example of how uncivilized and ignorant houndsmen are. I hope all of you do the same. Yes, please respond, but do so in a way that represents us well. Assertive, but not a bunch of aggressive, brash a$$holes. That is what they are and how they react, let's not stoop to their level.

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Yes, be careful in response, especially when claiming to be a hunter. They can easily twist your words to use it against us.
A better way to respond is by supporting groups who further our causes. We do not support them nearly enough to yet compete with the giants like HSUS. They are there waiting to fight these battles on our behalf but we must enable them first.

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I don't know but I think they are talking about the Method that Bear Hunters are using .. Radios and Tracking Collars and Dump More hounds out then sit in their Truck and wait .. Not all hunter Misuse this Equipment But its the Main Method Here.

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czars, czars, everywhere a czar

the article is defiantly disturbing, but more disturbing is the fact that it is reflective of one of b.o.'s CZAR'S thinking on the issue. sustein is right there with them.

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bunch of radicals and with the current admin in office they will be able to further push their agendas down our throats. if EVERYONE does not stand up and support the groups that are there for the hunter/houndsmen then kiss your dogs and guns goodbye.

I read the article and just laughed. only some city bred, veggie eating ***** could come up with this stuff. I also found this link about the wildlife penning -which is still pending in the NC assembly when session resumes in May. Other states will be targeted in 2010. this woman is bonifide crazy.
http://www.hsus.org/wildlife_abuse/...fe_penning.html

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DO NOT EMAIL THEIR SITE!!!!

They will sign your email up to malware and other things you do not want to receive.


No amount of rational debate and facts will make them "see the light".

Kind of like people who support Obama.

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