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I have been in dogs for almost 20 years. I have traditionally registered mine AKC and have participated in a myrid of AKC events. Everything from confirmation, field, and obedience and I have titled dozens of dogs. I am a serious breeder and exhibitor. Because of recent events with AKC regarding their lack of legislative protection, punishment of breeders who actually breed, and apparent apathy for the threats being presented to dog breeders through anti-dog and breeder legislation, I am seriously considering moving my dogs to UKC. Mostly because I have (as well as many in my clubs) been impressed with UKC's diligence in supporting efforts to stop Anti-breeder/anti-dog legislation. I am not the only one. Currently, having discussed and conversed with dozens of other breeders that I know, they are feeling the same way.
There is just one problem...
While I know that UKC deserves money for registering dogs etc, because it takes work to enter the information; many of us have decades of breeding and money invested in AKC registration. All in told the cost of moving our breeding programs to UKC is proving, well, exhorborant. Many of us have years worth of dogs we co-own and co-breed litters on. Many of us own up to twenty or more (especially the toy dog breeders) of our own dogs. While they may not all live with us, we would want those dogs that we own to be moved to UKC for future litter registrations.
The thing is, the people I know personally is only a very tiny number of individuals who feel the SAME way. There are so many more out there. Probably thousands.
Considering the amount of potential litter registration revenue that could be made for 'adopting" these AKC dogs into UKC, it would seem to me that it would benefit UKC to come up with some sort of bulk move for dog breeders. I realize that they offer a discount on (I think its) 5 or more dogs at a time. But the reality of it is, this simply isn't enough of a discount to make things worth while. Face it, we as breeders owners have an extremely large amount of pedigree info to transfer as well.
I would think, in the light of so much AKC frustration that it would behoove UKC to consider opening it's doors with "free" registration of AKC dogs. They could do this for a limited time perhaps. Maybe thirty days out of the year, much like open registration for insurance, maybe even limit this move to AKC dogs only? I would think that the future litter registrations, event fees, and furture payou outs in registrations from subsequent dogs listed with them would more than make up for the cost. While I know there would be a slight loss on UKC's side in the beginning it could very well pay off. Perhaps to save resources they could make this an ONLINE process only. Where individuals are responsible for transfering pedigrees and typing in the data for record keeping. Any mistakes of course would be the responsiblity of the one entering the data and they would have to pay for corrections.
Any how. I figured it was worth a shot to mention this to UKC, in hopes that they might consider it. I think in the long run the profits would be well worth the initial loss.

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why should YOU get free registration, simply because you have decided to move your entire breeding program records to the UKC??? ALL of us had to pay full price over the years.

Nothing in life is free.

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Originally posted by iAm
I have been in dogs for almost 20 years.

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We also offer a discount for a person who single registers 20 or more dogs with us at 1 time: $18.00 per dog. However to get these discounts, all of the dogs being registered must be registered in the same person's name.

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Well Gee....

I"ve been in dogs since I was 2... should I ask UKC for a free ride?

All my poodles are dual registered with AKC and UKC... and yep, those registration fee's add up....

But such is LIFE. UKC has a right to charge a fee for their service just like anyone else...

No one ever said you had to pay to transfer 20 years of records over.... just transfer the dogs you have NOW. Pay the fee's and stop 'yer whining...

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I think the idea of just registering just your current breeding stock is a good suggestion. That way you can give UKC a trial run. Get a few dogs registered with UKC, come to a few events and then decide where you want to go from there.

I don't think you honestly believed that this idea of free registration would be well received, but hey....you don't know, if you don't ask right?

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I have AKC registered dogs and I currently own 17...and I am just about done cross registering. I just did it in groups of 5. I am currently getting ready to do my first UKC Litter Registration. Costly? Yup. But so are entry fee's, equiptment, food, gas, etc. I am now dual registering my litters. While it is expensive initially it pays out in the end. And for future litters I am going to do exactly like I did/do for AKC. In order to pick up your puppy, the new owner must bring seperate checks made out to the organization(s). Papers get signed and mailed off by me. My buyers know of this well in advance. It lets me, the breeder, know that the paperwork is filled out and not changed and that it gets in the mail. It guarentee's that my puppies get registered. The registries are happy, I'm happy, they are happy.

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Great advice!

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Originally posted by redrockgsd
I have AKC registered dogs and I currently own 17...and I am just about done cross registering. I just did it in groups of 5. I am currently getting ready to do my first UKC Litter Registration. Costly? Yup. But so are entry fee's, equiptment, food, gas, etc. I am now dual registering my litters.

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GRCH Let's Parti Pierre, #4 in UKC for 2007.
GRCH WP's Love Reign O'er Me, #5 in UKC for 2008.
CH WP's Orpheus In Red Velvet, #8 in UKC for 2009.

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$20.00 to register a litter with us, regardless of how many pups are in the litter.

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I re-read what I posted...when I referred to "costly" I meant overall, not for the litter registration. Litter registration is comparable to AKC or less than. :-)

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Thank you for the clarification!

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