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When is a dog ready for comp hunts? what are some things that you all look for in a young dog? Im having a hard time making up my mind on a young dog. any opinions are welcome.

hes 17 - 18 months old and can do it on his own. he gets hunted alot, hes hunted alone 60% of the time, and he will get off by hiself now and then.


thanks nate

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nate its realy your call. I don't see that manny bad things happen at hunts. sow if you fill he is ready. take him. but if you see somthing you don't like hapening withdraw him. jmo

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Where does it say they gotta be ready? A good share of the dogs hunting Registered aren't ready, some of them never will be. The easiest way to see what you need to work on is to lay down your 20 bucks, get your dog in there and find out. Every minus your dog takes will be burned in your brain when you go home and you will be thinking about it and looking to correct every night next week.

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For me to hunt a young dog it has to be 2 years old. Before that if you put them in and draw junk they can pick up alot of really bad stuff. Also they are usaully gritty enough that they won't take no crap off other dogs at the tree, and if they get pile drove by another hound it will not affect them as bad.

I will also hunt it with three or four other dogs for a month or two, to see how well my young dog measures up. It is best if it is not the same dogs all the time. And it really works good if there is another good dog in the bunch and a couple medioker ones. Basically set your self up as if it were a comp hunt and run the score card in your head. If your dog prevails most of the time it's time to go to work.

Young pups in the hunts is not the best. I know of GRNITECH dogs that are 2 years old that will tree a possum on a regular basis. That is not a coondog that is a young dog. In my mind when I see the GrNite Ch title at the begining of a young dogs name for thr first time, I picture a 3-5 year old that is a no fooling around COONDOG. The way I see it if a dog trees possum on a reg basis they don't deserve to be a GrNite Ch. A dog should be straight by the time it makes NiteCh in my book.

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I started my young dog at the hunts last year .I withdrew her once and lost one.my fault. and put two first on her. she was15 months at her first hunt. I can't say for you to go by age but to go by ability and maturity. some can and some can't at that age.

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Not to be a smart azz , but if you dont know the answer to your question, you best keep huntin that joker, and then hunt him out with somebody elses brag dogs and find out .

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Jim, you have the right idea. There comes a time you need to see where he stands with what is out there and what mistakes he makes to know what to work on for the next one.

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Originally posted by JiM
Where does it say they gotta be ready? A good share of the dogs hunting Registered aren't ready, some of them never will be. The easiest way to see what you need to work on is to lay down your 20 bucks, get your dog in there and find out. Every minus your dog takes will be burned in your brain when you go home and you will be thinking about it and looking to correct every night next week.

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Here is the thing. If you go to a hunt and draw a bunch of junk and your dog has a good night you are gonna think that taking it was a great idea "it was ready". IF you go and draw out with a cast of superstars and your dog looks horrible you are going to think "wow that was dumb".

There are for sure dominant high power dogs out there, but for the whole slew of them that fall in the middle it can depend just as much on who shows up as it does if your dog is ready.

Personally I don't have the extra money to put down unless I am hunting something very consistent that I feel confident about.

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I don't really have anything to add to what JiM and Briar said....

I will in turn ask you....when are YOU ready? Are you ready to withdraw the dog and consider your entry fee a donation if you draw the type of dog that you don't want your young dog associated with?

That to me is the distinction. You'll never know till you are ready to sacrifice an entry fee.

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I sacrifice ALL my entry fees....lol.

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I don't really have anything to add to what JiM and Briar said....

I will in turn ask you....when are YOU ready? Are you ready to withdraw the dog and consider your entry fee a donation if you draw the type of dog that you don't want your young dog associated with?

That to me is the distinction. You'll never know till you are ready to sacrifice an entry fee.

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Nate I say call your dog for what he is doing and let him do the work at winning or losing and that will give you a pretty good idea. IF you dont run out of money first!!!!!!LOL

It is going to come down to him satisfying you and remember that is who he has to satisfy and no one else.

Rome wasnt built in a day and he is still young.

I can say one thing about pups one day they seem red hot and the next they might be ice cold. Welcome to the pup training world.

If training a pup was easy everyone would do it and would not be looking to buy a broke dog all the time. (Not saying that everyone wants a broke dog kust using that as a point.)

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your really the only one that can answer that ?. in most cases your probably better off letting them mature thats what i decided to do. it just aint worth screwing a good prospect up.

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just don't be afraid to wothdraw your dog.

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Here's the deal. IMO nite hunts are for coon dogs. They are not a place to train your dog. Your dog should be well on there way to becoming the hound you want him to be. I feel most hounds are 2 to 3 yr. old before they are a solid well established dog.
I know, I know, many hounds run and tree there own coons before the are a year old and look good doing it but they are still learning,IMO..
You have a nice hound, many were pushed to early only to learn bad habbits you would not put up with. Or worse yet, to be eaten up by some alligator that has no business being in a nite hunt to begin with....SO
If you hunt him, enjoy, but watch him closely. If you feel he is in a cast with a hound that you wouldn't take him pleasure hunting with, withdraw him and go home before you both regret it.
Only you will know when he is ready.

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