Registered: Jun 2003
Location: minnesota
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why isn't the world hunt the last hunt of the year making it the last stand for the purina hounds to gain points.

what would change if the world hunt was in december. would the majority of hunters be willing to try it on a 1 year trail.

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December would eliminate the northern states from consideration because the weather is too risky that time of year. Nobody , atleast no one I know of, wants a World hunt in 2 feet of snow.

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: minnesota
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can you tell me the last time the world hunt was in minnesota, wisconsin, michigan,new york, maryland, or anywhere else there is 2 feet of snow in december.

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'Pr' Lucking's Code Red Mountain Dew ( Owned by chad porter and myself) ( Daughter of Desperado) 2 1st place wins ukc nite hunt. 1 best of show with comp , bench show.

'Pr' Lucking's Northern Red Tucker

AND THE PAST:
NT.CH.CH.LUCKING'S KN. LAKE TROOPER
NT.CH.GR.CH.LUCKING'S RAISIN KANE(son of trooper)
NT.CH.CH. LUCKING'S MAD MAGGIE(niece to tornado)
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'pr'lucking's northern red cowgirl (daughter of wylie)(needs just a 1st given to mark barnett)
nt.ch.gr.ch.Lucking's Midnite Desperado (son of cowgirl)(sold to bill tabler)
Nt.Ch.Ch. Desperado's Midnite 3 D(son of Desperado) (given to larry tabler)

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I has been in Indiana a bunch of times....like about every other year and if you don't believe we can have 2 feet in December, then you haven't ever been here in December.

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I would bet at least 1/3 of the casts in last years world hunt were guided in Wisconsin. Oh and we had 2' of snow last December.

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ok then how about late october, something tell me some peole don't want to hunt with the leaves off the trees.

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'Pr' Lucking's Code Red Mountain Dew ( Owned by chad porter and myself) ( Daughter of Desperado) 2 1st place wins ukc nite hunt. 1 best of show with comp , bench show.

'Pr' Lucking's Northern Red Tucker

AND THE PAST:
NT.CH.CH.LUCKING'S KN. LAKE TROOPER
NT.CH.GR.CH.LUCKING'S RAISIN KANE(son of trooper)
NT.CH.CH. LUCKING'S MAD MAGGIE(niece to tornado)
GR.CH.NT.CH.LUCKING'S RED TORNADO(son of trooper)
NT.CH.GR.CH.L&I RED HOT WYLIE(son of tornado)
'pr'lucking's northern red cowgirl (daughter of wylie)(needs just a 1st given to mark barnett)
nt.ch.gr.ch.Lucking's Midnite Desperado (son of cowgirl)(sold to bill tabler)
Nt.Ch.Ch. Desperado's Midnite 3 D(son of Desperado) (given to larry tabler)

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I would like to hunt without the leaves on the trees as well, but there is alot going against you in October and November around here. Kill season is open for starters. Hide hunters will be out in force. Deer hunters are so territorial that time of year alot of guys who guide can't hunt spots they normally do. Also trapping season is open as well.

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ok then how about late october, something tell me some peole don't want to hunt with the leaves off the trees.

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i'm not saying the same dogs won't win becasue of it but sure enoguh alot won't make 2 hours. with out draawing the minus. if it was no big deal why all the objections. i would like to see it in december, in the lower state, kentucky lower indianna are examples

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Home of:

'Pr' Lucking's Code Red Mountain Dew ( Owned by chad porter and myself) ( Daughter of Desperado) 2 1st place wins ukc nite hunt. 1 best of show with comp , bench show.

'Pr' Lucking's Northern Red Tucker

AND THE PAST:
NT.CH.CH.LUCKING'S KN. LAKE TROOPER
NT.CH.GR.CH.LUCKING'S RAISIN KANE(son of trooper)
NT.CH.CH. LUCKING'S MAD MAGGIE(niece to tornado)
GR.CH.NT.CH.LUCKING'S RED TORNADO(son of trooper)
NT.CH.GR.CH.L&I RED HOT WYLIE(son of tornado)
'pr'lucking's northern red cowgirl (daughter of wylie)(needs just a 1st given to mark barnett)
nt.ch.gr.ch.Lucking's Midnite Desperado (son of cowgirl)(sold to bill tabler)
Nt.Ch.Ch. Desperado's Midnite 3 D(son of Desperado) (given to larry tabler)

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I would like to hunt without the leaves on the trees as well, but there is alot going against you in October and November around here. Kill season is open for starters. Hide hunters will be out in force. Deer hunters are so territorial that time of year alot of guys who guide can't hunt spots they normally do. Also trapping season is open as well.

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is good hunting in ky.have the world hunt with no leaves on it will give you a beter COON DOG winner.IT WOULD BE FARE TO ALL.hell sheapards tree coon in the sumer time have one for the COON DOGS not just the hot nose tree dog of today

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The other KC has it's World Hunt in the dead of winter, deep south, no leaves, thin coon and guess what? Those hotnosed, can't run a track, slick teeeing idiot Walker dogs still win. Bury your hatchet.

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I love the time of year it is in Ukc, and hope it stays that away. A hunt with leaves off for coon dogs. My ? to those that complain about these slick treeing dogs that keep winning the world hunt is this. While were walking to and scoring those slick treeing idiots and even if its a circle tree, WHY AINT YOUR SUPER COONDOGS OUT THERE TREEING THOSE REAL LIVE COONS. They should have plenty of time. You would think they should be able to double up on those circle treeing dogs. The bottom line to me is this, a WORLD CHAMPION COON DOG is as good with the leaves on or off, and for you that are complaining you can't beat these dogs, than you better stay home and save your money, and maybe take your wife out for a night on the town because you don't have a coondog of that caliber. I've heard this for years and its the most childish thing I've ever heard. Get a coondog and you want half to complain so much.

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And go back to the UKC World Hunt scorecards from the last few years and count up all the circle trees from the Final Four casts. That will also take some air out of the "leaves off" thing.

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The other KC has it's World Hunt in the dead of winter, deep south, no leaves, thin coon and guess what? Those hotnosed, can't run a track, slick teeeing idiot Walker dogs still win. Bury your hatchet.

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walkers are not coon dogs i am A WALKER MAN.wat i am saying is IT SHOULD BE HELD IN THE WINTER TIME INSTEAD OF WORM WEATHER WHERE THOES HOT NOSE DOGS LOOK GOOD BUT PUT THE SAME CAST OUT IN THE WINTER AND THE BETTER COON DOG WILL WIN THE HUNT THAT WAY.

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Originally posted by JiM
And go back to the UKC World Hunt scorecards from the last few years and count up all the circle trees from the Final Four casts. That will also take some air out of the "leaves off" thing.

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DONT CIRCLE ANYTHING, YOU SEE A COON U PLUS, U DONT SEE A COON U MINUS, STOPS ALL THE ARGUING. ITS LIKE GOING TO A FISHING DERBY AND WINNING CAUSE U GOT MOST NIBBLES. IF THEY WOULD ONLY PLUS OR MINUS A TREE THEN DONT MATER LEAVES OR NOT.

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I think if the UKC world hunt was held where the lieve were off the score would be much higher. Easyer to find the coons,guys you ain't winning the world hunt by treeing blanks.

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just wondering how many of you that would like to see the change have made it to the would hunt imade it to their with 675+ with no- and no circle and the 2 nite i hunted in iowa every tree we treed had acoon in it so i dont see the big deal leaves or no leaves

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And go back to the UKC World Hunt scorecards from the last few years and count up all the circle trees from the Final Four casts. That will also take some air out of the "leaves off" thing.

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Next to invermec and rough dogs , a leaves off World Hunt is prolly the most popular subject for discussion on here. I bet this one will pop up again within the month.

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my thoughts on the subjetc are simple , just like on here people talk about not having the CALIBER of dogs to go to the world. but alot of what you or anyone needs is a little luck , any dog ,ANY DOG , can win any hunt any given night . your dog may be better than mine tonight and mine might be better tomorrow ........ PERIOD

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I hunt Ind, Oh and Michigan a lot in dec and they dont get 2 feet of snow in dec. Most years they wont have much snow till the last of dec and even then it is not to bad. They do have some years when they get it early but not many. Ukc could have this hunt in the first 2 weeks of dec. and everything would be fine. I dont think you see as many blanks as people like to say but we all know why they say it. The only reason they say it is because the walkers win and the other breeds dont thats a fact. The Akc world hunt just showed again that them walkers tree coons not slick like the other breed hunters like to say. I say have it in dec. then they will start talking about some other reason they get beat every year. The next thing will be they hunt more walkers Thats wright they started that one when the akc world hunt was held.

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YOU AND I KNOW THEY ARE LOTS OF DOGS THAT CANT TREE COON IN THE WINTER IN EVERY BREED.JUST WINNER TIME HUNTING makes a COON DOG SHINE when it counts.i would love to see every world hunt heald in the winer time scorning trees is faster. so why would not every hunter wount to have it in the winter.i will tell you why because not every one hase a winter time dog thats why.now get your adviser out of that truck and you wount need to manitulate the rules to win

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