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sleepydog65
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new Hunt director format

do you have to qualify to be the hunt director or can the club appoint one that they deam qualified

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Bill(Chew)
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It's up to the club to appoint a person whom they feel can do a good job.

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I believe it's up to three fellers named Franklin, Grant and Jackson.

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truebluefordman
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i dont know how this will work out? will it help the clubs who have little money or will it help the cry baby's go start there own club now that they dont need a master of hounds.

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fordman, your post makes no sense at all. Every club is required to have two licensed MOH before UKC will charter them. If UKC had actually enforced this rule, they would never have found it nessessary to allow the HD format. If a club has the required members that are MOH, then it wouldn't cost the club a dime to have a MOH unless their own members are charging. And the crybabies will find it no easier to start a club. As far as I know, the requirements to charter a club will not change at all.

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i think it will work good put the final desicion up to 3 people on a panel instead of 1 man i think the master of hounds format has some major flaws

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truebluefordman
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ya better re read it . you will no longer have to have a master of hounds. unless it is a rqe or majer event,

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georgef072007
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The Hunt Director format makes a lot more sense for the clubs that have enough members that regularly attend and don't hunt in the UKC events. You know, the old guys that have quit hunting and do all of their coon treeing from the table or couch. Now , while most of those guys are coon hunters, the draw back is that most haven't kept up with the rule changes. If you plan on using them for a panel, give them some refresher training with the new rule book and they should be fine.

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Every panel I have ever been around used handlers from that nites event. They just make sure they are not connected to anyone involved in the question.
I can't ever recall a question coming back to a panel before the hunt was over. However I can recall many times that UKC questions have come back before the hunt was over. I guess we will have to wait and see how that situation is to be handled. Any MOH will tell you they have spent many nites at the clubhouse waiting for the casts to come in with no one there that would be qualified to set on a panel.
Our club and I suspect most of the clubs around here will not ever deal with the HD thing.

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The MOH system also has a panel if anyone wants to go past the MOH so it seems pretty simple to me. If the club has a MOH available use them so they can answer the simple rookie questions that seem to come in on UKC casts. If a club doesn't have a MOH then use the HD. The HD just can't handle any questions and it goes straight to the panel. I don't see how anyone can say that the MOH system (providing one is available) has flaws if a person understands the whole system.

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does the hunt director have the right to scratch a handler that gets out of control or a fighting dog.

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No! The hunt director has absolutely no authority to make any rulings of any kind. That can only be done by the panel. The hunt director is responsible for assembling the panel.

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extending deadline

Will the HD be allowed to extend the hunt deadline in an effort to assemble a panel? I know that a MOH can only extend if a cast gets down to one handler.

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Barry Brown
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This new format will do away with the guys that bring things back that have been voted on in the woods. Now they will need to put their money up instead of just their mouth. Now these kind of guys will loose their money for waisting peoples time on something that never should have been brought back to the club. you dont see alot of this stuff in pkc because it cost money and people will not put the money up if they are wrong. The way it has been in ukc for years is just bring it back your buddy is the moh and he will side with you. There will not be so much of this anymore.

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Hypothetical Situation Only

Jim, lets say that you, me and Roughcreek are the only people that show up at a hunt. The weather is lousy and no one is crazy enough to be there except us 3 and the Hunt Director. After 30 minutes or so of hunt time is used the dogs tree, a dog fight breaks out on the way in to the tree. You and Roughcreek say that it is obvious that my dog started it and scratch me. I put up my money and question the call, what happens when the question hits the Hunt Directors desk?????? There is no one there for a panel, and he can't make the call. Is there some kind of provision for a worse case scenario like this?

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Re: extending deadline

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Will the HD be allowed to extend the hunt deadline in an effort to assemble a panel? I know that a MOH can only extend if a cast gets down to one handler.


NO!

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Jim, lets say that you, me and Roughcreek are the only people that show up at a hunt. The weather is lousy and no one is crazy enough to be there except us 3 and the Hunt Director. After 30 minutes or so of hunt time is used the dogs tree, a dog fight breaks out on the way in to the tree. You and Roughcreek say that it is obvious that my dog started it and scratch me. I put up my money and question the call, what happens when the question hits the Hunt Directors desk?????? There is no one there for a panel, and he can't make the call. Is there some kind of provision for a worse case scenario like this?

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