Registered: Jul 2006
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i what to know who would like to see ukc put the all the dogs together like curs with hounds

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ill cut my cur loose with any hound but hunting them together in ukc.its not going to happen.to many hound guys dont want to hunt with the curs.thanks ron hubbard

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Location: va
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i know i dont care i got hounds and a lep cur. i dont care what you beat me with if you beat me you got a better dog then me! but like where i live there is no cur hunting in the state!!

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Registered: Aug 2005
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here in michigan we only have two clubs that have coon hunts for curs.i wish we could get more participation from the guys that have curs.thanks ron

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Registered: Jan 2007
Location: OKlahoma
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I feel the same way about the hunts, I tried to put one on but had very little sucsess.I dont know any one else close to me that coonhunts with there curs,But hunt with alot of different hounds and wouldnt be scared abitt to turn loose in compition with any of them .

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Registered: May 2007
Location: Dwight
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I think it is ridiculous the way they have it set up anyhow. First off, curs cant compete against hounds in coon hunts and hounds cant compete agaisnt curs in squirrel hunts. Or fiests or whatever it is. Treeing Curs, fiests and all the other breed of curs should be able to compete against hounds and the other way around too. Its fairly evident to me at least without doing this the Cur and Fiest program will die. I seriously dont have a clue why they dont do this. There aint a handful of cur dogs out there that could even come close to competint with todays modern competition hound anyhow so I dont see what it would hurt. If yall dont like that last statement well too bad, its true and thats the real reason the segregation makes no sense. I think the squirrel dog program would benefit also cause of the induction of hounds and the coon hound program would benefit also because fo the induction of the cur and fiest dogs. I honestly aint sure either that many hounds out there right now could compete against some of these curs in a squirrel hunt either. Who care though, just let em all play.

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Location: marlette michigan
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modern competition hound slick slick out of hearing slick.there are a few nice hounds but most hounds finish by riding off other dogs.

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Registered: Mar 2006
Location: texas
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if you are looking at it from a competition stand point i can see it possibly dieing out, but from a breed stand point people like(hog hunters) will never let the cur breeds die out...lol. i would like to see the ukc try to dive off into that realm.

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Location: central illinois
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I currently own hounds and a Blackmouth Cur. I have done a lot of competition hunting over the years with my hounds and I sure aint afraid to cut em with any dog including a cur. Triker, I have to disagree with you, there are an awful lot of nice hounds out there, every bit as many as there are nice curs if not more. Myself, I love my cur dog and sure hope he makes a nice squirrel dog and coon dog, in fact so far I like him as well as my hounds but he is a different type dog than my hounds and fills a different niche than my hounds do. He will never replace my love for the hounds, nor will they replace him. I do feel they should all compete heads up in both coon and squirrel hunts and may the best dog win. I would love to see it and think it would do all the hunts some good. Matter of fact I think any dog should be allowed to hunt, hound, cur, registered or grade dog. But I also think any dog should have to hunt by himself and come in with plus points before earning any kind of degree, including shows. These dogs are supposed to be hunting dogs and if they cant they are not a god representative of the breed irregardless of which one. I know a lot of show people will disagree but this is how I feel for whatever it is worth. And yes, I have shown dogs but you can bet I always showed what I was hunting.

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Just my thoughts. Hounds and Curs hunting together in the same hunt for the same titles. Isnt going to happen.
Now before the rocks get thrown, I voted to hunt them together. I'll run my ol lep cup against any dog on any night, but there is just way to many hound dollars running the UKC. To many high dollar houndsmen say,"Hell No; I dont want my perfect breed hound in the same ring as a mixed up mutt". What they dont know is some lines of CUR are a hell of alot more pure than thier line of hound. Truth is some ol worthless cur is probly thier dogs greatgranddaddy!!!
Heres one thing I think could happen thou. We could could have an ALL BREED DAYS, atleast one MAJOR hunt a year, where CUR lovers can toss thier hats into the ring with some top hounds.
The UKC is a great registry, and between Todd, and Allen, and some of the others, Im sure they can find a way to make this happen.

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I'd like to see the results of this poll in the coonhound section of this board. I'd also like to see a world hunt where they throw them all together, hound,cur, registered and grade dog where they can compete for the title of world champion coondog rather than coonhound. Same goes for the squirrel hunts! But I do agree, competition hunting is all about the money today, that's why you will never see it happen, not because the majority of the hunters don't want it but the big name big money guys dont!

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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: South Mississippi
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The PKC, ACHA and NKC registries all allow hounds and curs to be hunted together. Now, check the numbers and see how many curs are entered in their hunts. You will find very few if any. I have an Amazing bred cur and another on the way that I intend to put into some PKC hunts when they're ready. Even though it's talked about alot, most cur hunters are not going to enter a coon hunt with hounds included. I don't know why when they have plenty of opportunity.

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I would like to see UKC offer the Cur / Fiest events held along with the Hound events. The Curs / Fiests could have they're own show and hunt but take advantage of the clubs providing a clubhouse, kitchen, MOH and BSJ as well as guides.
If nothing else, it may help with additional guides as well as increased fellowship.

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Registered: Jul 2006
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ok guys im going to put the same post up in the coonhound hound thing and we will see what they think to guys. and thank you for posting

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Originally posted by Va&MDPlottDogs
Just my thoughts. Hounds and Curs hunting together in the same hunt for the same titles. Isnt going to happen.
Now before the rocks get thrown, I voted to hunt them together. I'll run my ol lep cup against any dog on any night, but there is just way to many hound dollars running the UKC. To many high dollar houndsmen say,"Hell No; I dont want my perfect breed hound in the same ring as a mixed up mutt". What they dont know is some lines of CUR are a hell of alot more pure than thier line of hound. Truth is some ol worthless cur is probly thier dogs greatgranddaddy!!!
Heres one thing I think could happen thou. We could could have an ALL BREED DAYS, atleast one MAJOR hunt a year, where CUR lovers can toss thier hats into the ring with some top hounds.
The UKC is a great registry, and between Todd, and Allen, and some of the others, Im sure they can find a way to make this happen.

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Registered: Feb 2007
Location: nw IL
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HUNT CUR/HOUNDS TOGETHER FOR WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP!!!

THAT IS A GREAT IDEA, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT!!!!!! COUNT ME IN!!!!!! I WISH WE STILL HAD GRADE HUNTS, AND I HUNT WALKERS BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CURS AND HOUNDS HUNT TOGETHER. I AM NOT COLOR BLIND, AT ALL!!!!! I ALSO LIKE TO SEE GAME IN TREES, NOT JUST TREES!! THANKS BRIAN

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Originally posted by john r. kincaid
I'd like to see the results of this poll in the coonhound section of this board. I'd also like to see a world hunt where they throw them all together, hound,cur, registered and grade dog where they can compete for the title of world champion coondog rather than coonhound. Same goes for the squirrel hunts! But I do agree, competition hunting is all about the money today, that's why you will never see it happen, not because the majority of the hunters don't want it but the big name big money guys dont!

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GREAT IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU LIVE IN SOUTHERN IL. I LIVE IN NORTHERN IL. HAVE YOU EVER CROSSED A CUR ON A HOUND(WALKER) THANKS BRIAN

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Registered: Jul 2006
Location: va
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yes,they need to 49 56.98%
no, i think it is fine now 37 43.02%
Total: 86 votes 100%
ok guys that what is says as of now in the coonhound section of this boards. and i sent todd a pm and he said they are looking in to it guys!!! so we may get what we want.

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Registered: Feb 2007
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THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!!!!!

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Registered: Jul 2006
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guys i working hard on this not just for me but for all the people that hunt curs and trying to keep the breed going and maybe get more people likeing curs!!!!

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This is a good post, thanks for starting it! More people need to express their views on this subject and not let this post end up in the archives. It could be very important to both the cur and hound hunters. Keep it going and express your views. Dan N

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Originally posted by Va&MDPlottDogs
Just my thoughts. Hounds and Curs hunting together in the same hunt for the same titles. Isnt going to happen.
Now before the rocks get thrown, I voted to hunt them together. I'll run my ol lep cup against any dog on any night, but there is just way to many hound dollars running the UKC. To many high dollar houndsmen say,"Hell No; I dont want my perfect breed hound in the same ring as a mixed up mutt". What they dont know is some lines of CUR are a hell of alot more pure than thier line of hound. Truth is some ol worthless cur is probly thier dogs greatgranddaddy!!!
Heres one thing I think could happen thou. We could could have an ALL BREED DAYS, atleast one MAJOR hunt a year, where CUR lovers can toss thier hats into the ring with some top hounds.
The UKC is a great registry, and between Todd, and Allen, and some of the others, Im sure they can find a way to make this happen.

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enter a coonhound with curs in a UKC squirrel hunt?

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Registered: Jul 2003
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I believe a ukc reg hound is the only thing you CAN NOT enter in a cur feist hunt. Kinda silly ain't it. You can hunt poodles , bassets anything else. Wonder who made the rules??

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Registered: Jul 2004
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This has been beat to death and It will not hhappen any time soon. First I don't off the Hound people has breed asociations of which the Cur & Feist can't seem to get off the ground. Peoplle can already compete against Hounds in PKC but that isn't really happening either. If UKC would allow the Cur & Feist to hunt with the Hounds people would say they would come to the events and bottom line is they wouldn't. First the Cur & Feist haven't earned the right to compete with the hounds. The Hound people have spent many many years building up the big hunts they currently have and they have the right not to let the Cur & Feist in.

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