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Re: Hey Innis
quote: Originally posted by willseeyalater
Are you sure a whole tube of Equimax would be right? It's enough to de-worm a 1300 lbs horse so that seems like a huge dose for a 50-70 lb dog. I have been using it but only putting about a half inch long dose onto bread and peanut butter for mine to gobble down. Am I way low or what? My hound weighs 62 lbs. Where did you get your dosing info? It's 1.87 % Ivermectin in there. I understand that 1% ivomectin is to be given at .01 cc per ten lbs of dog. Is there a concentration difference between Iver and ivo-mectin? Just wondering if I am near or way off the effective dose. I rotate the Equimax with another plain ivermectin horse wormer each month and have been dosing it about the same, about like what I would put on a toothbrush with toothpaste. Not an exact scienctific way but not overdoing it I am sure.
You have to use alot of paste for dogs which is why I recommend using the liquid for more accurate dosing. Horse doses are far lower than dogs. You can buy the liquid oral 1% Ivermectin for horses which is 10mg/ml. The dosing range for endoparasites and ectoparasites is very broad with the toxic range in the 30mg/kg range and LD50 at 50mg/kg. I use .1cc/10# of the 1% liquid Ivermectin for treating hookworms and scabies. This dose is also microfilaricidal for HW. It is not a very effective roundworm anthelmintic even at higher doses so you still want to combine it with pyrantel (Strongid -T) liquid at 1cc/10#. Fenbentel also works well like I said above and will add whipworm, hookworm, giardia, and roundworm control.
The rule of thumb on Ivermectin is to not use these higher doses in collie related breeds ie. white feet, don't treat. That includes Aussies. The are more susceptible to Ivermectin toxicity because of differences in their blood/brain barrier. Ivermectin is safe to give pregnant animals. Here is some more info:
Dogs
As a preventative for heartworm:
1. 0.006 mg/kg (6 mcg/kg) PO once monthly (Hribernik 1989)
2. 6-12 mcg/kg PO once monthly (Knight 2000)
3. Minimum dosage of 5.98 micrograms/kg (0.00598 mg/kg) PO per month (Rawlings and Calvert 1989)
4. Minimum dosage of 6 micrograms/kg (0.006 mg/kg) PO per month. Three tablet sizes are available: For dogs up to 25 lbs (68 micrograms); 26-50 lbs (136 micrograms); and 51-100 lbs (272 micrograms). Dogs weighing more than 100 lbs. should receive additional drug so that the minimum dosage is covered. (Package insert; Heartgard 30®--MSD)
As a microfilaricide:
1. 3-4 weeks after adulticide therapy, admit to hospital and administer 0.05 mg/kg (Dilute 10 mg/ml solution (Ivomec®) to a 1:10 solution with propylene glycol). Monitor for symptoms of toxicity (depression, mydriasis, ataxia, vomiting, diarrhea, and shock) throughout the day. If adverse effects are severe, (usually less than 5% of the time), treat with fluids and corticosteroids. If no adverse effects are noted, animal may be sent home to return in 3 weeks for microfilaricide concentration test. If negative at that time, begin prophylaxis therapy. If positive, recheck in one week. If 4 weeks after therapy microfilaria persist, reevaluate for adult heartworms. See the complete reference for more information. (Hribernik 1989)
2. 50-200 micrograms/kg (0.05-0.2 mg/kg) as a single dose; contraindicated in collies (Knight 1988)
3. 4 weeks after adulticide therapy, give 50 micrograms/kg PO (dilute as in "a" above) in the morning. Monitor for adverse effects throughout the day; if no serious effects, may discharge in late afternoon. Do not use in Collies or Collie-Mix breeds. (Rawlings and Calvert 1989)
As an ectoparasiticide (miticide):
1. For treatment of Sarcoptes scabiei or Otodectes cynotis infestations: 300 micrograms/kg (0.3 mg/kg) SC or PO; repeat in 14 days (Paradis 1989)
2. For demodicosis: 400-600 mcg/kg PO daily. Consider using the test dose method: Start at 100 mcg/kg PO and increase by 100 mcg/day until target dose is reached. Treatent typically required for 2-4 months. If toxicity is noted, discontinue. Do not use in collies, Shelties, Old English Sheepdogs and other herding dogs. (DeManuelle 2000)
3. As scabicide: 300-400 mcg/kg PO or SC once weekly for weeks. If using the 1% injection, 1 ml = 10,000 mcg. Beware in sensitive breeds (e.g. Collies, etc.; "white feet, don't treat"). Check heartworm status prior to treatment. Adverse effects are rare outside of sensitive breeds. (Foil 2003c)
As an endoparasiticide:
1. For treatment of parasitic lung disease (Capillaria spp.): 0.2 mg/kg PO once (Bauer 1988)
2. For Oslerus osleri: 0.4 mg/kg SC once (Reinemeyer 1995)
3. For Eucoleus boehmi: 0.2 mg/kg PO once (Reinemeyer 1995)
4. For Pneumonyssoides caninum: 0.2 mg/kg SC once (Reinemeyer 1995)
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