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Well I guess im done hunting the young dog till trapping season is over! Talked to a landowner today that ive hunted on for years and he asked me if ive been doing anygood? Told him been treeing a few and he said ole so and so have killed 23 coons so far this year on the same ground im hunting!! 220's in buckets and spring loaded snares! it would be nice if he would have told me........O by the way theres gonna be traps in there this year!! Done some more checking and theres traps about every where ive been hunting!! Ive been reading my dog books all day showing him traps and what they will do to him but he acts like he dont understand anything im talking about so he is done 4 the year........... Sorry to rant but I needed to blow some steam!! LOL

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give thanks that your dog didnt find one of those 220's!!

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when i find them they go in the river............

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yea it pisses you off my female jill got a front leg caught in one the other nite i can tell you though them traps don't float and i don't think trapping season is in on management area's here in alabama

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give thanks that your dog didnt find one of those 220's!!

Marty

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it was for me!!

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I found a bunch of 330's were I was huntin the other night, had no clue they were there,
Farmers just tryin to save their investments but they coulda let me know

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yea it pisses you off my female jill got a front leg caught in one the other nite i can tell you though them traps don't float and i don't think trapping season is in on management area's here in alabama

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You guys messing with legally set traps are breaking the law plain and simple. You just may fall in the "slob hunter" catagory. I dont like body grip traps set on the ground as much as the next guy but you make all houndsmen look bad when you break the law. Reread what I said about LEGALLY set traps. Dave

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I am a trapper and a houndsmen... I only use footholds , reason being i can let go unwanted critters. In michigan, a legal foothold will not hurt a dog, maybe give it a limp for little while, but if its a legal trap it shouldnt hurt it. I had a dog caught in someones coyote set on state land once, I got my dog out, and left the trap there, also tried to conceal it so noone else who wandered by seen it. Dog walked funny for a few minutes, then was fine. I dont care for conibears myself, but ruining someones set, or stealing their traps, is ALMOST as bad as stealing ones hound. YOu just dont do it, and can hardly call yourself a sportsman.

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I gotta agree with Warrior and CountryMile. I've been a trapper and a houndsman for many years. No trapper wants to catch your dog. It is a PITA and doesn't pay a cent. It takes time and costs money to buy, dye, de-scent, and otherwise prepare traps for use. It takes time and effort to make a good set. To waste all of that by catching something other than what you intended is a shame, so responsible trappers try to set in ways and locations that won't catch cats, dogs, crows, etc.

A leghold trap that breaks a bone in a fox or coon when it closes will allow the animal to twist out. The largest leghold I've ever used was a #2 for coyotes. I've had a hound of mine step in a #2. No permanent harm done. Just a tender foot for a day or so.

Most states don't allow body hold traps outside of a water set. If somebody is setting them outside of a water set that's unethical and probably illegal. It's just plain not smart besides.

Traps usually have to be labeled with the trapper's name and address, or brand. If somebody is setting illegal traps in your area this makes them easily traceable. Turn 'em in. Otherwise, leave those traps alone.

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I have seen a cocker spanial get his leg in a leg hold (6in diameter) he just yelped once then was released and acted like it didnt faze him.... i was just wondering though when a leghold is set on a drowner (such as a slider drowner) do you guys think there are much of a chance of a dog getting in the trap then jumping trying to get lose and sliding down the cable and drowning?

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if you are a coonhunter true blue why would you want to trap out your coon...........i know you catch fox,beaver and on and on.....i dont see the sport in it and the hides are not worth that much unless you have a pile of them.........i wish you couldnt get a dollar for a coon ...when they where worth 35 to40 dollars i could understand it but 7 to 10 ..........no

one more ?? if its for the money do you shot 2 and 3 coon out of the same tree as well..........

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sorry that when my dog got caught i got mad and acted in a way to protect her from harm again it was not like it was way back in the woods it was right off the road in a camp site out of the waterthe game warden said that it was illegaly set had no #s on itbut did say i should have left it alone and showed to him because he said you have to have your trappers # on them and it should not be in a location where pets and people is in dangerthat's what he said and ( he's the law) not warrior

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I have seen a cocker spanial get his leg in a leg hold (6in diameter) he just yelped once then was released and acted like it didnt faze him.... i was just wondering though when a leghold is set on a drowner (such as a slider drowner) do you guys think there are much of a chance of a dog getting in the trap then jumping trying to get lose and sliding down the cable and drowning?

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Well, first it would definately depend on how deep the water is. Obviously right?. Also , most stakes that are set up for coon or mink/muskrat on drowner sets, a decent sized dog might be able to pull out.

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I would love to see a Them outlaw every kind of trap except box traps. That way if you trap a non target (house cat, dogs ect.)you can release with no harm done!! Im not judging anyone but as a hound hunter there is no way I could ever set a TRAP that could kill another mans dog. Should be the law everywhere that you have to put out trapline signs where ever you trap so I have a choice if I want to turn my dog loose there!! With out me knowing traps are there.......YOU sign my dogs death warrant! Go ahead and tell me how wrong I am..........

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there are traps everywhere around here Chris, snares and 220's in buckets too. The signs are a good idea but I don't think it will ever happen. Did that pup do anything? Steve

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I would love to see a Them outlaw every kind of trap except box traps. That way if you trap a non target (house cat, dogs ect.)you can release with no harm done!! Im not judging anyone but as a hound hunter there is no way I could ever set a TRAP that could kill another mans dog. Should be the law everywhere that you have to put out trapline signs where ever you trap so I have a choice if I want to turn my dog loose there!! With out me knowing traps are there.......YOU sign my dogs death warrant! Go ahead and tell me how wrong I am..........

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good post and I agree. But with the rise of fur prices and the cheap snares or even conibears that do not need tended every day there is a huge danger to OUR dogs. Last year the best dog I ever owned was killed in a conibear. at the court hearing the guy showed where he had snares or coni's set. he had them in every decent trail or drainage between two parcels of land. One I had permission on the other I did not. guess which fence line the traps were all in? I'm sorry but any conibear over the size of a 110 should NOT be allowed on land, PERIOD.

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Worrior, Lets see if this makes scence to you............ lets say your the trapper and im the houndsman, The setting is state owned ground that we both have permision to hunt and trap. If would you put your traps in there if there was a sign that said " I will steal every trap I find in here"? Maybe maybe not........But if you did and They were stolen atleast you had a choice. Just because you put a sign out that says trapline does not mean someone would steal your fur or traps. I know when I turn my dog loose anywhere there is a chance of him being stolen but I choose to take that chance. If I knew there was killer traps set I would atleast have a choice to turn loose or not!! If you took your kids to the state lake and there was a sign that said trapline would you let your kids play over there?? If there wasnt a sign and your kid got cought in a trap would you be fighten mad?? Im not saying trapping is wrong im just asking for a warning.....THATS ALL

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You guys messing with legally set traps are breaking the law plain and simple. You just may fall in the "slob hunter" catagory. I dont like body grip traps set on the ground as much as the next guy but you make all houndsmen look bad when you break the law. Reread what I said about LEGALLY set traps. Dave

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Worrior, Lets see if this makes scence to you............ lets say your the trapper and im the houndsman, The setting is state owned ground that we both have permision to hunt and trap. If would you put your traps in there if there was a sign that said " I will steal every trap I find in here"? Maybe maybe not........But if you did and They were stolen atleast you had a choice. Just because you put a sign out that says trapline does not mean someone would steal your fur or traps. I know when I turn my dog loose anywhere there is a chance of him being stolen but I choose to take that chance. If I knew there was killer traps set I would atleast have a choice to turn loose or not!! If you took your kids to the state lake and there was a sign that said trapline would you let your kids play over there?? If there wasnt a sign and your kid got cought in a trap would you be fighten mad?? Im not saying trapping is wrong im just asking for a warning.....THATS ALL

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dave what does that make a guy who shots a coon once in awhile in the summer...........

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