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I only tried it once to the sire of my once in a lifetime dog. The whole litter was worthless and it cost me a ton of money.


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I only tried it once to the sire of my once in a lifetime dog. The whole litter was worthless and it cost me a ton of money.


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A week at the vet purchase the seman $1,100


Raised till 2 yrs old $3000.


25 cents worth of 22 shells.



How's that.


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Out of 25 year old semen, we like him allot

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$4,100.50 weighs a ton? It must have been all pennies.

I just bred a female to some old semen. It cost $2,000 for 2 straws, $200 for shipping, $500 for AI and boarding, $100 for gas. I didn't get any pups so I guess that I saved the money for the .22 shells.

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Conrad mine was out of grntch yadkin tar chief direct son of rattler it was a grandfather X grandaughter cross she reproduced on everything else but him they were worthless!!



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$4,100.50 weighs a ton? It must have been all pennies.

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Tar, Should have bred him to a Lipper bitch

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Female I am hunting now is out of above female rattler 4 times lipper 5 times out of a direct son of bad habit lol. Going to a stud ( live breeding lol ) that has rattler 3 times lipper 4 times.



It ain't like it ain't already there lol.


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I have raised three AI litters and hunted pups out of all three of those litters. I think the pups are as good as the ones from a natural breeding but the litters I raised were from dogs that were good reproducers when they were alive.

In my opinion over 90% of the dogs being collected are not good enough producers to be freezing semen on. There are really only a handful of males from each decade that are good enough producers to freeze semen from. Maybe only 1 or 2 per decade. Most of the semen in storage should be thrown away.

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From frozen semen, You still get some good ones, some bad ones and some in between.
I like that i can go back and get some traits that i want, and breed an older style dog.
And yes their is a difference, in their build and actions in some of these dogs. Some bad some good.
Frozen semen to me is like having a library of traits for me to use in breeding...

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Old semen isn’t as big of a problem as semen from some old dogs.

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In my opinion over 90% of the dogs being collected are not good enough producers to be freezing semen on. There are really only a handful of males from each decade that are good enough producers to freeze semen from. Maybe only 1 or 2 per decade. Most of the semen in storage should be thrown away.

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What percentage or number of studs today should be used for live breeding?

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That's a good question Richard!

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What percentage or number of studs today should be used for live breeding?

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I am hunting the 4th generation of frozen semen dogs, and yes they produce and are in the Winners Circle.I have had this stock of dogs for 29 yrs.

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