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Congrats to Country's Hot Babe , Ronald Chapman Sr and Steve Burkholder . You had a great week with Semi-finals at Superstakes only to leave it and take 5th place and High scoring crossbred at the World Hunt. Has a crossbred ever placed higher?

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Kind of yes and no. One won a couple of years back but there was some controversy and the dog was scratched, his win nullified and final cast rerun.

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X breed Sambo won the UKC WORLD HUNT, but was stripped of his title because of an incident that occurred in the zones. Yes, he beat every dog in every cast he was in to win the World Hunt, and he was a bluetick crossbreed. Dave

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Why was he scratched? What happend in the zones to cause him to be scratched?

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Why was he scratched? What happend in the zones to cause him to be scratched?

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Congrats! Must be one heck of a dog.

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Thanks for the answers. Corey its my dad's dog and she is one heck of a dog Mojo beat her out by the original strike on Friday to get in the final 4. She has a sister just like her. The sister lead her semifinals SS cast for the full 90 minutes but lost to a coon that was found after the 90. So close but that is what makes it fun.

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Sambo and Babe have similar bluetick bloodlines in them. Sambo’s mother and Babe’s sire are out of the same family tree of Blueticks. I don’t know about the Walker side of them.

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That's good info, It is certainly a good cross. I love the X Breed Program, I only wish that it was like that back when I was younger and hunting a lot in competition hunts. I owned a Xbreed bluetick that was as nice of a coon dog as you could get. He won more UKC grade hunts and was most of the time the high scoring dog of the Hunt than any 10 dogs ever won. You could not haul the trophies in a pickup bed that dog won. He was special, I often wonder how many big hunts he could have won if the X Breed Program would have been in place then. He could tree coons that most dogs could not smell and was deadly accurate. I would love to own one more like him before I get to old to hunt. Dave

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Is this Ron Chapman the same one that owned the Hardtime Buddy dog back in the 80's and early 90's???

If so, he's got experience with X-Breed dogs. Hardtime Buddy himself would be considered X-Breed under todays standards.

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Is this Ron Chapman the same one that owned the Hardtime Buddy dog back in the 80's and early 90's???

If so, he's got experience with X-Breed dogs. Hardtime Buddy himself would be considered X-Breed under todays standards.

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Tell your dad that we are glad to see him back in the game and that he sure knows how to make an comeback. I wish him the best with Babe, she should only get better. Dave

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Is this Ron Chapman the same one that owned the Hardtime Buddy dog back in the 80's and early 90's???

If so, he's got experience with X-Breed dogs. Hardtime Buddy himself would be considered X-Breed under todays standards.

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What was Hardtime buddy registered as and what was his pedigree and was he really x breed? I've heard of him before just trying to get the story on him.

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Buddy was out of 1979 ACHA World Ch. Hardtime Speck. Speck was a Walker dog that was transferred into the English. So, Buddy (raised by Ron Chapman) was registered English. I raised pups from Speck and a female that had single registration on both sides. The pups were registered English, even though their sire was originally a registered Walker, and the mother was part Bluetick with some Walker (single registration). I kind of liked it that way.

Here's a few of the foundation dogs of the English breed:
(1) Boyd's Little Joe. Not registered as a pup. Was single registered.
(2) Vanzants Sam. Registered as pup. English Coonhound (Bluetick). He was out of foundation Bluetick blood.
(3) Hardtime Speck. Registered Walker. Johnsons Banjo and double Stans Sailor Boy. Transferred to English.
(4) Beshears Blue Boy II. Crossbred. Walker and English. The litter was registered English.
(5) Darons Blue Reb (Lumis). Crossbred. Walker and English. Heavy Johnsons Banjo (Walker) bred. Had both Merchants Banjo II and Houses Chief behind him.
(6) Merks Tapp. Crossbred. Walker and English. Had Finley River Joe (Walker) behind him.

Back in the 1970's and earlier, Walkers were registered as: English Coonhound (Treeing Walker), Blueticks as: English Coonhound (Bluetick). You could cross them and register them as English. That went away. But, you could still cross them and "single register" them as English. That went away with the X-Bred designation.

The English Breed was the X-Breed before there was an X-Breed designation. That is why you see Walkers in the English breed, Blueticks in the English breed, and Redticks in the English breed.

I think there is probably still an old post by Dave Tackett (search Hardtymes) on here that gives a lot of history on English hounds of the past. I know Hardtime Buddy was on it (he was a Walker looking hound).

Almost all of the dogs I've hunted from the 70's until just recently were English (and would be considered as X-Bred by todays standards). Speck, Lumis, Little
Joe, Nichols Tree Spike.

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I bought a female in the middle 70"s. She was born in 1974. She wasn't pr bred, had yellow papers and was reg. as Walker(treeing) on the papers. I bought her from Larry Pehle out of a male called FD. CH W.CH. CH. NT CH. Pehele's Midwest Banjo \ Nt Ch Midwest Molly. House's Elmer and House's Queen in pedigree neither had reg. numbers but were sire and dam of House's Bawlie.

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One of the best dogs I ever followed was a bluetick who was out of a female out of Brush Creek Blue and a single registered female. X breeding has also taken the place of single registration. It has also helped take the place of some false registrations since those false papers aren’t needed to compete anymore. Ignorance can be bliss but what X breeding does is bring some things that would have been left in the closer brought out into the daylight. It’s not the bad thing that some people make it out to be.

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One of the best dogs I ever followed was a bluetick who was out of a female out of Brush Creek Blue and a single registered female. X breeding has also taken the place of single registration. It has also helped take the place of some false registrations since those false papers aren’t needed to compete anymore. Ignorance can be bliss but what X breeding does is bring some things that would have been left in the closer brought out into the daylight. It’s not the bad thing that some people make it out to be.

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John, One of the best coon dogs I have ever owned or seen was a x breed bluetick. He was hunted as a grade dog ( shame) and won countless UKC HUNTS, being the high scoring dog of the hunt most of the time. I would have loved to have him now and register as an x breed, I think he could have been one of the best in the big HUNTS. Dave

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Buddy was out of 1979 ACHA World Ch. Hardtime Speck. Speck was a Walker dog that was transferred into the English. So, Buddy (raised by Ron Chapman) was registered English. I raised pups from Speck and a female that had single registration on both sides. The pups were registered English, even though their sire was originally a registered Walker, and the mother was part Bluetick with some Walker (single registration). I kind of liked it that way.

Here's a few of the foundation dogs of the English breed:
(1) Boyd's Little Joe. Not registered as a pup. Was single registered.
(2) Vanzants Sam. Registered as pup. English Coonhound (Bluetick). He was out of foundation Bluetick blood.
(3) Hardtime Speck. Registered Walker. Johnsons Banjo and double Stans Sailor Boy. Transferred to English.
(4) Beshears Blue Boy II. Crossbred. Walker and English. The litter was registered English.
(5) Darons Blue Reb (Lumis). Crossbred. Walker and English. Heavy Johnsons Banjo (Walker) bred. Had both Merchants Banjo II and Houses Chief behind him.
(6) Merks Tapp. Crossbred. Walker and English. Had Finley River Joe (Walker) behind him.

Back in the 1970's and earlier, Walkers were registered as: English Coonhound (Treeing Walker), Blueticks as: English Coonhound (Bluetick). You could cross them and register them as English. That went away. But, you could still cross them and "single register" them as English. That went away with the X-Bred designation.

The English Breed was the X-Breed before there was an X-Breed designation. That is why you see Walkers in the English breed, Blueticks in the English breed, and Redticks in the English breed.

I think there is probably still an old post by Dave Tackett (search Hardtymes) on here that gives a lot of history on English hounds of the past. I know Hardtime Buddy was on it (he was a Walker looking hound).

Almost all of the dogs I've hunted from the 70's until just recently were English (and would be considered as X-Bred by todays standards). Speck, Lumis, Little Joe, Nichols Tree Spike.

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She won double casts last night to advance to the PKC world finals too!

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UKC Gr NT CH, PKC Ch Sheppard's Northern Blue Abbie, (PiazonxSky) UKC GR NT CH 'pr' Sheppards Northern Blue Punkin (PiazonXAlice) High scoring Bluetick of the 2015 (50th anniversary) Grand American, 2017 National Grand Nite Champion of breed, 2017 BBOA zone 4 Nite hunt dog of the year. Queen of hunt on 2019 Grand National Bluetick Reunion, 5th place and High Scoring Bluetick of 2019 UKC world Nite hunt Championship, 2019 Triple Crown Winner.
UKC GR NT CH 'pr' Mckintosh's Blue Flame Chopper
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