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AAThoundhunter
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Aluminum Box Insulation

How well does the plastic corrugation that a lot of the aluminum boxes have for insulation actually work? I currently have a wood box with styrofoam board insulation and it keeps the dogs very comfortable. With that being said its getting to the point that I am going to need a new box soon, so I was just looking at my options. I live in Michigan so we get temperature ranges from below zero to 100.

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yadkinriver
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I've used boxes for years with the plastic insulation and even though we dont usually experience the extreme cold the dogs do ok. Just suggest in extreme cold close the vents and in extreme heat open them and keep moving. Hope you have a sense of humor cause i'm gonna suggest if it's below zero, stay home. If it's 100 degrees out, stay home. Sorry, couldn't resist.

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I was concerned about the heat issue in full sun. So, back in 1993 when I bought my aluminum diamond plate dog, I crawled into it about 3:00 pm on a blistering hot day. I was surprised at how well it buffered the hot metal. That being said, I still wouldn't leave dogs in it for a length of time without the vehicle moving.

In the winter, I would always add plenty of straw.

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I was concerned about the heat issue in full sun. So, back in 1993 when I bought my aluminum diamond plate dog, I crawled into it about 3:00 pm on a blistering hot day. I was surprised at how well it buffered the hot metal. That being said, I still wouldn't leave dogs in it for a length of time without the vehicle moving.

In the winter, I would always add plenty of straw.



This is probably the only time in my life I have ever disagreed with Larry.

I do not add anything to my box. I realize I don't have the extreme cold he has but it just makes a mess IMO and doesn't help much. It gets in the cracks and causes issues with doors closing and it gets wet causing the dogs to be less comfortable than just the insulation alone.

That is just my opinion. If I wanted more than the blue insulation I would add one of the good dog box pads I could take out.

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Larry Atherton
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Howdy Rip,

LOL, but I do have those nice dog pads in my dog boxes. Yes it can be extra work. You will need to watch it to make sure it doesn't get wet. However, I will say this after getting home on a January night there are times ole pot licking biscuit eater doesn't want to come out of the box.

I am surprised no one commented on me crawling into the box.

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Seneca, the only box that has true insulation that keeps dogs warm in cold and cool in heat.

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Seneca, the only box that has true insulation that keeps dogs warm in cold and cool in heat.


I will agree that Seneca makes a very high quality dog box that is insulated very well. However that statement isn’t completely true. Regal dog boxes and houses have 1” foam board insulation in the walls and have been that way for 25+ years. I owned the company at one time and built many of them. They are still owned by friends of mine Bob and Darlene Edinger 330-359-5657. Back during the time I built them , I tested all kinds of dog boxes with thermometer and letting them sit in sun and in the cold.All of them get hot without air moving in them, but all my research showed the aluminum boxes with the plastic cardboard looking insulation in them got much hotter in heat and colder in cold conditions. Think about it, aluminum is a super thermal conductor.

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Was unaware Regal was still is building boxes, hadn’t seen anything from them in awhile.

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I bought an aluminum diamond plate dog box in 1996 from a guy in Michigan.
He was a distributor not the manufacturer. I want to say it was a Diamond Deluxe but I'm not certain that's correct. At the time, I believe they were the first on the market with the welded aluminum diamond plate box. I was using it mainly for my beagles. My biggest issues were when it rained the box would get wet inside. Rain would get in the vents even when closed and also around the doors. The issue in the winter was condensation. Which will happen with any dog box if there isn't a means of venting the condensation. The condensation will collect on metal faster then it will on most any other material. That aluminum box I had only had that thin blue air cell type insulation on the floor and walls. Top was sheet aluminum.

I run a Leer fiberglass cap or some call a topper on my trucks so what I find works best is a cap/topper with slider windows and screens and I use 2 shipping crates big enough for 1 coon dog in each inside the cap/topper. I buy my trucks with sliding rear windows and get one in the cap/topper as well. When it's hot I open both sliding side windows and the slider on the cap/topper. When it's hot if the trucks parked the dogs are removed from the boxes. If it's moving the air flow keeps them comfortable. I live in northern New England so really don't have as much of the extreme heat as many of you have. It does get cold though!!

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Dogbox

It was probably a Continental.

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That's exactly what it is! It's still in use. I gave it to my best friend in 2004. He uses it for his coon hounds and in the winter for the hare hounds.

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Thanks for the responses. Seneca looks like a very nice box. DL NH, I have always wanted to use a fiberglass topper with a box underneath just wasn't sure how well the dogs would do in the summertime. If i did that I would probably use the Dakota kennel or the gunner kennel.

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