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Dieing bawl mouth locate and genetics

Sitting here in the woods wishing I had one a dog with a hair raising locate and wondering if you could breed for that(among everything else). Anyone see a multi-generation genetic pattern where the same to die for locate carries through from dog to dog to dog?

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I had several Hayes bred dogs back in the day they all had good mouths with a big locate they were all out of Hayes and different females....I always thought that where it came from .....idk for certain Cotton

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We have a granddaughter of Insane Cain that has a darn nice locate and is a sure enough put hides on the woodshed pleasure dog deluxe. We got lucky to find her, she is the first walker dog we have owned in 30 years and sure wish we could stumbled on to her when she was younger, she just turned 8.

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Genetics might have some play in it but personally I think itís the dog.

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i had a bluetick in the 70's huge voice huge dying locate

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Got a 7th Generation LineBred male here Got that Locate His Sire ,GrandMother Great GrandSire HAD THAT BAWL MOUTH Not all offspring from 4th generations got it but Majority did House/Coma Breeding

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We are on our 4th, and soon to be 5th generation of it.

Yes it can be kept, and yes it can be bred for without having to have a line bred pedigree, or any T-Man in it. While I do love it, it can be a detriment in a cast.

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I had a female of stylish Harryís hammer and a xjr female about 10 years ago that didnít even sound like the same dog when she came off the ground and located. She had a squeaky mouth on track but when she located had just an absolute text book locate. Canít tell you how many times she would be trailing off by herself in a cast and when she threw it people in the cast would say someoneís hound come to her it wasnít the same dog. Also hunted with a English female about 20 years ago that had just a clear hound mouth trailing but when she came treed sounded like a pack of coyotes carrying on. But I would never sacrifice locate or mouth etc over ability. But I do love a hound with a distinctive locate.

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BONE THREW ALOT OF DOGS WITH HUGE LOCATES

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Trackman and Skipper both threw excellent locates that would carry over several generations.

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I had one off Kansas Dancer, that would raise the hair on the back of your neck, when he located! Big, screaming, sound like he stepped in a trap locate, and an every breath tree dog.

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Big locate

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Re: Dieing bawl mouth locate and genetics

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Sitting here in the woods wishing I had one a dog with a hair raising locate and wondering if you could breed for that(among everything else). Anyone see a multi-generation genetic pattern where the same to die for locate carries through from dog to dog to dog?

Doug do you have facebook? Is look up Jesse Walcheski. He has the Mr wilson dog and He got a young female from me called Joy. On his Mr Wilson page he has a video of Joy treeing. If you aren't on face book call Jesse he can't be that far from you.
She is a WALKER, but if you want to hear loud !

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Thanks Bob, I'll check him out.

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Skuana river bark I had sons and now grandsons they still make your hair stand up on that big bawling locate best I ever heard.

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I am hunting one now that has a 3-4 long bawl locate. Directly off of mojo

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I had a female of stylish Harryís hammer and a xjr female about 10 years ago that didnít even sound like the same dog when she came off the ground and located. She had a squeaky mouth on track but when she located had just an absolute text book locate. Canít tell you how many times she would be trailing off by herself in a cast and when she threw it people in the cast would say someoneís hound come to her it wasnít the same dog. Also hunted with a English female about 20 years ago that had just a clear hound mouth trailing but when she came treed sounded like a pack of coyotes carrying on. But I would never sacrifice locate or mouth etc over ability. But I do love a hound with a distinctive locate.


Nick...tried to send you a PM on the Dot dog you hunted. It said your box was full.

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I have two females out of Insane Cain and Trackman that has a awesome dieing bawl locate on them that you can hear way way off. Very loud mouse, bawl on the track and chop on the tree. Both Grnitech.

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Locate

I have two females out of Insane Cain and Trackman that has a awesome dieing bawl locate on them that you can hear way way off. Very loud mouse, bawl on the track and chop on the tree. Both Grnitech.

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PKC CH GRNITECH GRCH' PR ' WHITE'S LITTLE QUEENIE
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CH GRNITECH 'PR' FROST BITE ) OUT OF TRACKMAN.
5 GENERATION ALL GRAND !
QUALIFIED 2015 WORLD HUNT
QUALIFIED 2016 WORLD HUNT
QUALIFIED 2017 WORLD HUNT AND WENT
5th PLACE FINALIST 2017 WORLD HUNT !

PKC CH GRNiTECH INSANE SHANNA HTX
( GNITECH TURPEN'S INSANE CAIN x GRNITECH FROG'S GOLDEN CRICKET ) OUT OF TRACKMAN

"Pr" CUTTER'S INSANE HARRY
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