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I will give Biden 2 months to eradicate the virus, after all.. he has been watching and said NO-OBE WOULD HAVE DIED HAD HE BEEN PRESIDENT... So when the mutated virus hits AMERICA, we should not worry, he knows exactly what to do...
But my guess is.. it will kill more and he will blame President Trump.. as always.. 5-1 odds anyone?

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LOL

Obama blamed Bush for 8 yrs. for his failures
100% Biden will blame Trump for EVERYTHING.

Trump has set the bar high for future POTUS to put America 1st.
We already know Biden doesn't................

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quote:
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Fact check it, more Republican women have abortions. Why would that be? It is personal choice maybe or is it a Republican thing??


QUOTE]Originally posted by oklared



HOW MANY BABIES HAVE DEMS KILLED SINCE COVID STARTED ?
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OMG..They ask your political party when you put your legs in the stirrups? Now, I've heard it all...
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Re: LOL

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Originally posted by 4play
Obama blamed Bush for 8 yrs. for his failures
100% Biden will blame Trump for EVERYTHING.

Trump has set the bar high for future POTUS to put America 1st.
We already know Biden doesn't................



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Re: LOL

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....Trump has set the bar high for future POTUS to put America 1st.
We already know Biden doesn't................



You are right. Just look at what President Trump accomplished in his first 100 days in office. And he did this without a cabinet because the dumrats stonewalled/blocked all of his appointments in an attempt to slow him down.

Biden has said that he will put the rest of the world over/above the USA. He said that he would rejoin the Paris Peace Accord immediately. Look at his cabinet picks. He even added a new one Global Climate Change Advisor...John Kerry. Biden's whole stance on Climate Change is Anti-American and Pro Global. America doesn't have a problem. Our greenhouse gas emissions have been declining for the last 4 years. It is the rest of the world that has a problem. Biden wants to hurt our economy in the name of The Green New Deal. But we aren't the problem, the rest of the world is. Why do the left wing liberals think that is our resposibility? Let them fix their problem.

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Trump had both House and Senate for the first two years. They just announced over 3 million deaths in America, a record under a failed president and his Cult members. When will they just remove him so things can just start healing. This failure has drug on long enough. Trump has put Russia and Saudi Arabia above the US. But then again, he owes them millions upon millions of dollars and has no way to pay them back!!!!



QUOTE]Originally posted by Richard Lambert
You are right. Just look at what President Trump accomplished in his first 100 days in office. And he did this without a cabinet because the dumrats stonewalled/blocked all of his appointments in an attempt to slow him down.

Biden has said that he will put the rest of the world over/above the USA. He said that he would rejoin the Paris Peace Accord immediately. Look at his cabinet picks. He even added a new one Global Climate Change Advisor...John Kerry. Biden's whole stance on Climate Change is Anti-American and Pro Global. America doesn't have a problem. Our greenhouse gas emissions have been declining for the last 4 years. It is the rest of the world that has a problem. Biden wants to hurt our economy in the name of The Green New Deal. But we aren't the problem, the rest of the world is. Why do the left wing liberals think that is our resposibility? Let them fix their problem. [/QUOTE]

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Well.. the current Covid relief bill, packed full of PORK FAT, shows how political the whole government is. BOTH SIDES... People are Los ng their businesses, homes, livilihoods... And they want to get us $600.. and send $10 million to Pakistan for Gender study... We have Veterans sleeping in tbe streets, and they want to send forgeign aid out by the $ billions...
CNN blamed Trump for not signing it earlier. He wanted more for the AMERICAN PEOPLE.. but to save a government shutdown, and unemployment benefits for those who need it, he signed it.. but then requested more for AMERICANS..
Hate him all you want. Yeah, he spent the holidays golfing.. what else was he to do? He fought for more for us...
Give the government something to think about.. if they can afford to send billions overseas... Then they have too much in taxes.. 65 and older, no more taxes.. or better yet.. my taxes goes STRICTLY for veterans. Get them off the streets before you help another country off the streets. COME ON!!! Both DEMORATS AND REPUKES need to stand up for US....

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Gr. Ch. Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Izabell Sitara... Dual Gr. Ch PR Bowens Blue Deuce X Ch. Nite Ch. PR Becky.

Gr Ch Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Betty Jane...... PR. Crites Soggy Bottom Blue Banjo X PR. Mosquito Creek Tree mamma Sis

Gr Ch. Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Rattlin Samantha ... Dual Gr Ch PR Mid Ohio Rattlin Sam X Gr Ch PR. Lethal Blue Jet's Xena

Gr. Ch. Nite Ch Hillbilly's Smokey River Blue Dutch HTX..... Gr. Ch. Gr. Nite Ch Pr. Smokey River Tramp's Blue Lake and Pr. Misty River Blue Doll III.
(Dutch wasn't ours, but he was here and like one of the family)

Pr. Dan's little Porter.... my last beagle...

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jmo

USA is supposedly 100's of $$$ Trillions in debt!!!

So... How/why does USA Govt think 'WE' can 'afford' to send $$ BILLIONS $$ to other countries ,when we have people,businesses,vets failing here?

Sending Millions to Pakistan for transgender bs study? WTF!!!
100's of Millions for Jackfish study in the Golf? Really?
1.3 Billion to Egypt.

100's of million to USA museums,Kennedy Center.
They are not even open.If they can run themselves,charge entrance fee or just close them.Turn them into Vet living homes.I'd gladly see my $$$ go for that!

When does the USA Govt. put it's people 1st .....when in the end WE pay for everything?

If anybody thinks OUR Govt. does,please explain when/where?

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Oh my goodness, our government is borrowing money to give to Pakistan? Why doesn't Pakistan just borrow the money themselves? I don't understand. Who in our government thinks that is a good idea? Do they not know anything about economics? Does this not sound awfully fishy?

If we have extra money then of course we should help out poorer countries. But we are having to borrow the money to give to other countries. Who does that?

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Oh my goodness, our government is borrowing money to give to Pakistan? Why doesn't Pakistan just borrow the money themselves? I don't understand. Who in our government thinks that is a good idea? Do they not know anything about economics? Does this not sound awfully fishy?

If we have extra money then of course we should help out poorer countries. But we are having to borrow the money to give to other countries. Who does that?



The only people who would do this are the ones who expect to get some kind of personal payback

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336,529 deaths and so far today there has been 1,693 but we have some say a hoax, not true but the educated knows this Trump Virus is a very ready pandemic. Where would we be today if they had not fired the entire pandemic team and knew 6 months earlier there was a written plan, did not get implemented as they fired the team. The Republican party is guilty of failing the American people.


126,,000 confirmed cases just today. Dont worry it is just like the flu. My pillow guy and some other idiots sure missed the boat here.

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336,529 deaths and so far today there has been 1,693 but we have some say a hoax, not true but the educated knows this Trump Virus is a very ready pandemic. Where would we be today if they had not fired the entire pandemic team and knew 6 months earlier there was a written plan, did not get implemented as they fired the team. The Republican party is guilty of failing the American people.



Biden would be hiding in his basement.
Waiting for his 'disease he said he's gonna get'.So Kamala can take over.Came out of his mouth,look it up

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Trump golfing while Biden is leading. It has been 4 very long years with no leader but come Jan.20,2021 it all changes!
Then the Repukes can once again get on the band wagon and hope one day to ride another Democrates coat tail like Trump did Obama's coat tail, wore a hole in it!


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Waiting for his 'disease he said he's gonna get'.So Kamala can take over.Came out of his mouth,look it up
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Re: jmo

quote:
Originally posted by 4play
USA is supposedly 100's of $$$ Trillions in debt!!!

So... How/why does USA Govt think 'WE' can 'afford' to send $$ BILLIONS $$ to other countries ,when we have people,businesses,vets failing here?

Sending Millions to Pakistan for transgender bs study? WTF!!!
100's of Millions for Jackfish study in the Golf? Really?
1.3 Billion to Egypt.

100's of million to USA museums,Kennedy Center.
They are not even open.If they can run themselves,charge entrance fee or just close them.Turn them into Vet living homes.I'd gladly see my $$$ go for that!

When does the USA Govt. put it's people 1st .....when in the end WE pay for everything?

If anybody thinks OUR Govt. does,please explain when/where?


Agree with this 100% there is no reason for us to be sending other countries money when we need it ourselves this is just stupid. And who is going to have to pay all this money back in the end, "We Are"....

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Now they have no plan to get Americans vaccinated and now have the vacinne. What has this adminstration been doing for the last 10 month's? Let's say the pandemic team should have had this in thier plan, oh Trump fired all them. This just gets deeper! Jan. 20, 2021 can not get here fast enough.

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Now they have no plan to get Americans vaccinated and now have the vacinne. What has this adminstration been doing for the last 10 month's? Let's say the pandemic team should have had this in thier plan, oh Trump fired all them. This just gets deeper! Jan. 20, 2021 can not get here fast enough.


Daddy Joe will be able to tuck in at night, change your dirty diaper, and smack your little hand when don't mind, so don't freak, daddy Joe knows what's best for you so do as daddy Joe says and don't worry

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Trump, don't worry it will be gone One day, just one case! It is like the flu! When it warms up it will be gone. It is what it is! Heard imunity! Not the hard cold facts!

United States COVID-19 Cases and Deaths by State
Reported to the CDC since January 21, 2020
TOTAL CASES
19,232,843
+176,974 New Cases
AVERAGE DAILY CASES PER 100K IN LAST 7 DAYS
54.2
TOTAL DEATHS
334,029
+1,783 New Deaths
CDC | Updated: Dec 29 2020

Trump and the Republican party failed the World.

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Trump, don't worry it will be gone One day, just one case! It is like the flu! When it warms up it will be gone. It is what it is! Heard imunity! Not the hard cold facts!

United States COVID-19 Cases and Deaths by State
Reported to the CDC since January 21, 2020
TOTAL CASES
19,232,843
+176,974 New Cases
AVERAGE DAILY CASES PER 100K IN LAST 7 DAYS
54.2
TOTAL DEATHS
334,029
+1,783 New Deaths
CDC | Updated: Dec 29 2020

Trump and the Republican party failed the World.



Biden will have his chance. 1st confirmed case of the.mutated virus in AMERICA. After all, NO-ONE would have died had he been president. That is what he said. Then.. it will be our turn... And you will blame President Trump... Somehow... Sleepy Creepy Joe knows exactly what to do... No excuses Bestest.. NONE... Comprende'
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PR. Lethal Blue Tayen Grace..... Nite Ch. Pr Coffins creek running J.R. X Gr Ch Nite Ch PR Lethal Blue Moonlite Serenade.



Gone but never forgotten
Gr. Ch. Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Izabell Sitara... Dual Gr. Ch PR Bowens Blue Deuce X Ch. Nite Ch. PR Becky.

Gr Ch Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Betty Jane...... PR. Crites Soggy Bottom Blue Banjo X PR. Mosquito Creek Tree mamma Sis

Gr Ch. Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Rattlin Samantha ... Dual Gr Ch PR Mid Ohio Rattlin Sam X Gr Ch PR. Lethal Blue Jet's Xena

Gr. Ch. Nite Ch Hillbilly's Smokey River Blue Dutch HTX..... Gr. Ch. Gr. Nite Ch Pr. Smokey River Tramp's Blue Lake and Pr. Misty River Blue Doll III.
(Dutch wasn't ours, but he was here and like one of the family)

Pr. Dan's little Porter.... my last beagle...

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The sad part is that if Ding Dong Donnie had done something besides golfing and really took this serious we would not be where we are. If anyone thinks he did they have their head where sun does not shine. Since Nov. Election he has done nothing but try to stir more term oil. I know where I work many come back from this looking like different person, it is not the flu and it is real. I wish it on no one but some will not believe in until it hits home and hits home hard.




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Biden will have his chance. 1st confirmed case of the.mutated virus in AMERICA. After all, NO-ONE would have died had he been president. That is what he said. Then.. it will be our turn... And you will blame President Trump... Somehow... Sleepy Creepy Joe knows exactly what to do... No excuses Bestest.. NONE... Comprende'
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The sad part is that if Ding Dong Donnie had done something besides golfing and really took this serious we would not be where we are. If anyone thinks he did they have thier head where sun does not shine. Since Nov. Election he has done nothing but try to stir more term oil. I know where I work many come back from this looking like different person, it is not the flu and it is real. I wish it on no one but some will not believe in until it hits home and huts home hard.


I guess NO COUNTRY did as good as SLEEPY CREEPY JOE could have done. The sad part is he bragged no-one would have died had he been president. As far as term oil( turmoil) goes... He must be healthier.. he played golf instead of hiding in a basement. And he had it, got over it and went on. How many of the Whitehouse staff has gotten it, got over it and went on without even going to the hospital?
SLEEPY CREEPY JOE will have his chance with the mutated version. We all can't wait to see his expertise, his knowledge and his 20 hour days eradicating this virus. It will be so refreshing to see a man with leadership skills... Just hope he doesn't forget what he is doing along the way... He gets to start 1st and 10 with the new strain... And not 3rd and long. After all... When he gets rid of the new strain.. the old one will be a piece of cake...
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On Wednesday, more than 100,000 people were hospitalized due to the coronavirus. The same day, 2,804 COVID-19 deaths were recorded, the most ever in one day. Still, many people think the virus is no worse than the flu. I wanted to understand why.
So I asked.

About 200 people wrote to me. I read each one and shared them with our journalists covering the pandemic.

Many said they believe the virus is real but are worried about their jobs and their bills and how shutdowns have been handled inconsistently. Others are angry at politicians who plead for people to stay home but then get spotted at events. They don't deny the severity of the virus, they are frustrated with the country's response.


Then there are those who truly believe the virus is "no worse than a cold" or "another strain of the flu" unduly panicking "knee-jerk sheeple."

The maddening commonality of this group: They base their beliefs on false information, social media rumors or the fact that they don't personally know anyone who has had COVID-19, so it can't be that bad.

Data maps:How a third wave of COVID-19 engulfed the US

I say this constantly: Our job is to spread truth. Many letters repeated the same false claims, the same bad information. So I asked our team of health journalists to take on the most stubborn misconceptions and set the record straight. Here we go.

CLAIM: Numbers of COVID-19 cases are inflated because of repeat testing. For example, if someone gets tested seven days in a row and tests positive each time, they are all counted.

TRUTH: No matter how many times you test positive, you will only be counted once in official numbers. "All positive COVID-19 cases are reported to state health departments and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention," reports health writer Ken Alltucker. "Labs, doctors’ offices, urgent care and other testing sites collect a person’s identifiable information, such as ZIP code and date of birth. This information allows public health agencies to track results and trace a person’s contacts.

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"A person who tests positive is classified as a single case, even if the person tests positive multiple times, according to the Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists case definition adopted Aug. 5."

And what about those who test positive, and then negative after, some asked. Are they counted?

"It's common for someone to test positive using a lab test. When the person gets retested (say a week or two later) and they test negative, it means they no longer have detectable levels of genetic material of the virus," Alltucker said. "It does not mean it was a fake case. They were positive, the virus shedded and detectable levels disappeared.

​"In such a scenario, it would still count as a case in the totals."

CLAIM: Most people who die of COVID-19 are older; younger people don't have to worry. "The real question to me isn’t why so many people take this seriously," wrote a 34-year-old man from New York, "it’s why anyone under the age of 60 is at all."

TRUTH: More than 50,000 people under the age of 64 have died from COVID-19 as of Dec. 2, according to the CDC.

"Older adults face greater risk for severe illness or death from COVID-19," Alltucker said. "However, others with underlying health conditions such as heart disease, cancer, obesity or diabetes also face higher risk of sickness or death.

"While death rates are much lower among young adults, research shows they are not without risk. A recent preprint study by Harvard and Yale researchers found COVID-19 has surpassed opioid overdoses as the leading cause of death of adults ages 25 to 44."


We also know that young people can have COVID-19 but not show symptoms. And they can pass the virus on to more vulnerable populations.

CLAIM: Hospitals are inflating COVID-19 death numbers to get more money.

TRUTH: Hospitals do get an add-on payment from Medicare to treat the influx of COVID-19 patients as part of coronavirus relief legislation. However, this has nothing to do with how deaths are classified, and doctors are angered by the accusation.

"The hospital may receive more money for COVID-19 patients, but doctors are paid the same salary no matter how they treat and they’re the ones who ultimately certify the cause of death, not hospital administrators," Dr. Mangala Narasimhan, director of critical care services at Northwell Health in New Hyde Park, New York, told health reporter Adrianna Rodriguez.

“I want to strangle people who say that (COVID-19 numbers are exaggerated) because we’re fighting this battle every day,” Narasimhan said.

Dr. Amesh Adalja is an infectious disease physician and senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. He told Rodriguez the extra 20% bump doesn’t compensate for the procedures rescheduled or cancelled due to the influx of COVID-19 patients. Hospitals are still losing money.

“I’ve filled out hundreds (of death certificates) in my career," Adalja said. "It’s insulting that people think we (misclassify death certificates), including the president who made that same comment.”


CLAIM: If you look at the number of COVID-19 deaths compared with the U.S. population, it's a very small percentage, not enough to worry about. "There simply are not enough sick and dead people to impress much of the population," a Cleveland man wrote.

TRUTH: "While nearly 270,000 deaths may not seem like a lot compared to the 330 million people living in the United States, Adalja argues that it’s 270,000 more people who could still be alive if not for COVID-19," Rodriguez reported Wednesday.


“The number of deaths that are occurring right now is an aberration. It’s not normal,” he said. “If this isn’t such a big deal then why are there portable morgues in El Paso?”

CLAIM: The virus is going to do what it is going to do. We cannot stop it; we cannot slow it. It's just going to have to run its course. Protect the vulnerable and let everyone else live life.

TRUTH: Patient safety reporter Karen Weintraub takes this one. We're not helpless, she says.

"Today, although scientists don’t know everything they’d like to, they do understand enough about this virus to control it," she said. "It’s clear, for instance, that the virus that causes COVID-19 is a respiratory virus, so people get infected mainly by breathing it in. So if people can avoid being close to someone who is exhaling viral particles, they won’t get sick. This scientific knowledge gives us power to protect ourselves."

As far as protecting the vulnerable and letting everyone else live normally?

"That’s an enviable idea," she said, "and something that has essentially been tried across the United States, Brazil and a few other countries, unfortunately with disastrous results.

"Even if you are young and healthy and not overweight and not Black or Native American or part of another high-risk group, you probably are in close contact with someone who is. Or only one or two steps removed from someone who is. Roughly 40% of the American population is obese, over 65, or has a medical condition that predisposes them to be at higher risk for a serious COVID-19 infection."


When the USA TODAY Editorial Board met recently with infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci, he was fed up with those who don't take the virus seriously. "This is real," he said.
"And if the divisiveness is so severe that people don't think it's real when people are flooding hospitals and dying at a rate that we haven't seen with a disease of this type in 102 years, I hope that's enough of a stimulus for us to drop back as a nation and say, 'Hey, folks, we've got to start talking to each other about what this divide is between us.'"

So we've talked, we know what major factors fuel the divide: Misinformation. Conspiracy theories. Social media rumors.

And we've listened. I only hope the deniers do as well.

The CDC predicts the U.S. could reach 450,000 deaths by February.

Backstory: Anthony Fauci has had it with people who think COVID-19 is no worse than the flu

Backstory: We investigated claims of voter fraud in the election. Here's what we found.

Nicole Carroll is the editor-in-chief of USA TODAY. Reach her at EIC@usatoday.com or follow her on Twitter here. Thank you for supporting our journalism. You can subscribe to our print edition, ad-free experience or electronic newspaper replica here.

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They just said this is the worst one term Presidency since Hurbert Hoover. Man of the year!!! Plus mire deaths caused by any president due failure to prepare, reason fired the pandemic team.

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And, as ALWAYS, talks about PRESIDENT TRUMP.. INSTEAD OF SLEEPY CREEPY JOE... And BTW.. President Trump is the most admired man of 2020.. no wonder Bestest can't stop talking about him.. lol

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PR. Lethal Blue Tayen Grace..... Nite Ch. Pr Coffins creek running J.R. X Gr Ch Nite Ch PR Lethal Blue Moonlite Serenade.



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Gr. Ch. Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Izabell Sitara... Dual Gr. Ch PR Bowens Blue Deuce X Ch. Nite Ch. PR Becky.

Gr Ch Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Betty Jane...... PR. Crites Soggy Bottom Blue Banjo X PR. Mosquito Creek Tree mamma Sis

Gr Ch. Nite Ch. PR. Lethal Blue Rattlin Samantha ... Dual Gr Ch PR Mid Ohio Rattlin Sam X Gr Ch PR. Lethal Blue Jet's Xena

Gr. Ch. Nite Ch Hillbilly's Smokey River Blue Dutch HTX..... Gr. Ch. Gr. Nite Ch Pr. Smokey River Tramp's Blue Lake and Pr. Misty River Blue Doll III.
(Dutch wasn't ours, but he was here and like one of the family)

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Well today Georgia will announce that not only Trump lost three times but the two senators from the Repuke party lost and all due to ding ding Donnie. This shows that yes Trump lost and all his hate / COVID rallies cost them the Senate. As Donnie said the poorly educated would believe anything he said if he said it enough. One term Donnie is his name!

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The day is near that we clean out the biggest failure in America's history. Thousands dying daily and the one term blunder yelled hoax for months, shot down the science, lied daily about what was happening. First time in 4 years we have a leader that does have morals. Can anyone believe the idiot fired the pandemic team? Now it is time Trump pays for his crimes, it will make others see you do not act like Trump and go unpunished.

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