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That they have never hunted under. I have hunted under many different rules since 1979. I just wanted to compete I did not care what the rules were. The rules proposals that are on the table are the best I have hunted under it takes the advantage away from the clock working dog not competing against nothing but the clock many of those that have hunted against those kind of dogs know what their game is and how they win. Don’t fight somthing you don’t understand just because !!



Richard I seen your smiley face pictures at those $$$ hunts when they paid you did you tell them I don’t like your hunts and rules but I will take your money lol.


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If they want to give it away, I will accept it. I hardly ever win a cast or beat the other handlers. I just tag along, stay close and they feel sorry for me and end up giving the win away.
And yes, I have hunted under all of the rules and have seen a lot of changes. I know from experience which is the best teacher that when you change a rule you get unintended side effects.

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Ask you a serious question brouther. Are you against the changes because they don’t fit your style of dogs ?


Somthing to chew on I took fly and hunted under these rules against the fast strike and deep and alone dogs in that crowd she was a dead last strike dog and she would tree one behind them then either get part of theirs or tree anouther one. I won 10 out of 12 cast around $1,100 in 60 days. It’s not the rules they don’t like down here they don’t like it’s the management. They like ukc down here and the older guys want the one hour minie slams with the new rules. Evidently it not working this way rock said they had one dog at their hunt.


I one upped you yesterday I got a new red truck lol.


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Tarbaby, I drove an hr to a PKC hunt at the largest local club around here last night. They had 8 dogs. There were 4 youngsters and 4 seniors. The dog that won my cast, won by making a slick/circle tree. At the end my dog was treed by herself out of hearing at.8 mi. Everyone seems to like that style now but I hate her.
I like to hunt in both KC's. I like variety. I don't think that everything should be the same. I don't think that the rules should be the same for both KC's. And I don't think that UKC should try to attract those Pro handlers. They have their own KC to hunt in. If they want to hunt in UKC hunts by UKC rules then fine but why change UKC rules just to attract them?

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Tarbaby, you must be rolling in the money now if you can afford a new truck. What kind did you get? I thought that you couldn't afford to go to the big hunts? I will look for that shiny red truck up at Autumn Oaks. Now you just need a little camper to tow behind it. You know that you can't take it with you and he that dies with the most toys wins.

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It ain’t new it’s a 2002 Ford single cab 4x4. Sombody wanted my Toyota bad enough to pay almost what I paid for it I bought this truck and had quite of money left. Only one thing you ain’t thought of that will make these rules unique you got to still have plus points to win.



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That is the big difference.... no plus points, no winner. Now that doesn't mean much up North but down here we have a lot of dead casts. Anyone can guide at a PKC hunt because you don't have to tree a coon to have a winner. But at a UKC hunt the guide has to have a coon or two.

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The bigger the pot of money gets the plus point thing will go away. Mark my word. Somebody has to win when money is involved. I hope it stands .

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In the minie slams if you don’t have a plus point cast winners. You still have a cast winner you still give out the money but they don’t get a win.



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Tar , I believe every cast win should be based on plus points. The truth is people don’t give a crap bout a win, they want the money.

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Tar , I believe every cast win should be based on plus points. The truth is people don’t give a crap bout a win, they want the money.

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Titles doesn’t mean a thing anymore. A person made that statement on the pkc board. Win one of those big hunts or just place an you have enough won to make a dog a champion. But the money is good. An that’s with no plus points. Am not saying it’s easy , but it’s true. More are won with plus though.

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One of the big differences between young and old is that as you get older, you learn to accept and live with a lot of things that you just don't like. You learn that the world was not made to your specifications. You aren't going to win every time. Just because you don't like something, you don't have to change it to suit yourself. The world is not going to end just because you don't like something. You learn to chill out. Have you ever wondered why old people don't have chill pills and there isn't an opioid crisis among old people even though they sure have a lot more aches and pains. If we could change something, we would make ourselves younger.

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One of the big differences between young and old is that as you get older, you learn to accept and live with a lot of things that you just don't like. You learn that the world was not made to your specifications. You aren't going to win every time. Just because you don't like something, you don't have to change it to suit yourself. The world is not going to end just because you don't like something. You learn to chill out. Have you ever wondered why old people don't have chill pills and there isn't an opioid crisis among old people even though they sure have a lot more aches and pains. If we could change something, we would make ourselves younger.

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that would be nice to change my body back to 25 years earlier Richard man would I be stomping in the woods all night then.

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I want the hunts to continue for the younger generation.....
When they changed it in the 80’s it wasent broke it didn’t need fixed but it sure needs a fixen now.
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Tarbaby, why do the hunts need to change for the younger generation? Why can't they stay as they are and the younger generation learn to hunt as they are? When I was the younger generation, no one changed the hunts for me. I just hunted by the rules that the old guys used. Kids today are spoiled rotten. They think that the world revolves around them. They think that all they have to do is want something and they get it.

And what is "broke" now so that it needs fixing? When did it break and what caused it?

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Tarbaby, why do the hunts need to change for the younger generation? Why can't they stay as they are and the younger generation learn to hunt as they are? When I was the younger generation, no one changed the hunts for me. I just hunted by the rules that the old guys used. Kids today are spoiled rotten. They think that the world revolves around them. They think that all they have to do is want something and they get it.

And what is "broke" now so that it needs fixing? When did it break and what caused it?

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Oh my goodnes, the "everyone else is doing it" excuse. I used to try that on my mother when I was a youngster. Guess what, it never worked on her.

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Oh my goodnes, the "everyone else is doing it" excuse. I used to try that on my mother when I was a youngster. Guess what, it never worked on her.

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