Registered: Mar 2013
Location: Williamsburg, Ky
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I am going to give my opinion on how ukc hunts should run. Everyone hunt together. 5 cast wins equal nitech. 5 more cast wins equal grnitech. Pay performance money by cast wins. Takes away luck of drawing good guide. Use nitech rules. Put a countdown on the tree. Keep first tree at 125. Pay more frequently than once a year. Would be nice to raise value of performance point. I would be fine charging a membership fee every year of like $25 for anyone registering a dog or entering a hunt and put money in performance fund. Keep entry fees affordable like they are now. I believe that this setup would help draw people back to the ukc hunts.

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Registered: Feb 2012
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I like it .

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Probley best I've heard I like it

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Almost sounds like aka rules

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I think a dog should atleast have plus points any dog can make trees and get minus points just my opinion if they did change the rulls

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Registered: May 2012
Location: Asheville, North Carolina
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Why does everybody want to make all the different KC's rules about the same. If you like the format that a different KC has then hunt that format. If the goal is to have all the KC's rules the same, why have the different KC's. It's like trucks, some like a Ford, some like a Chevy, some like a Ram, etc. If you buy a Ford truck don't try and make Chevy and Ram trucks the same as a Ford. Buy what truck you like and hunt the KC you like with the rules they have in each KC.

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Registered: Jan 2013
Location: Marietta
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The styles of dogs have changed so that this kc's rules are outdated and inadequate it's so simple even a caveman knows that just sayen.

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Registered: Mar 2009
Location: gillett PA
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Originally posted by yadkintar
The styles of dogs have changed so that this kc's rules are outdated and inadequate it's so simple even a caveman knows that just sayen.

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Registered: Jan 2013
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Stingy as they are with paper I don't think we will have any rule changes till they use up all those scorecards they got printed up just sayen again.

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Location: Ark/Miss
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Originally posted by J I Allen
[B]Why does everybody want to make all the different KC's rules about the same. If you like the format that a different KC has then hunt that format.

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Registered: Mar 2013
Location: Williamsburg, Ky
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I don't know the akc rules but if this sounds similar I like the way they think. But let's face it nobody really cares about akc. If I'm breeding or buying a puppy I want the parents to be titled in ukc. The other kcs are nice but for a working class guy with a family I just don't have the time to run state races or am I doing to be paying $60 entry fees when the kids wants and needs come first.

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Registered: May 2012
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I guess I don't explain myself very well. With all the different KC formats to hunt under why make all the different KC rules the same or so close that it doesn't make any difference what KC you hunt in. I think we need different formats. I think people started breeding dogs for a certain KC's format and maybe they don't do as well in a different format, so they want all the different KC's rules to be about the same or exactly the same. change simply for the sake of change isn't always a good thing. I remember when they started changing rules because some kid got a ninth place when he finished second on his cast, people complained that we were getting cheap champions, when that kid still had to get a first place win to make NT. CH. The kid was hunting against 8 or 10 other 4 dogs cast, now a club will have only one cast with 2 or 3 dogs, so tell me how that rule change made better NT. Ch's. They quit coming to the hunts because if they didn't win a cast they didn't get anything to show for the effort. I know of one hunt that had 2 dogs show up, one NT. CH., and one registered and the same man owned both dogs, so from the 90's when everyone started wanting new rules until now, how that has helped attendance and made the Nt. Ch. better.

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Registered: Dec 2016
Location: Ark/Miss
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I'll explain from a business standpoint, which UKC is. With hunt attendance at an all time low and more competition from other KCs than ever, the new owners of UKC are probably wondering why changes haven't been made sooner in the hunting format, rules and Performance program to increase participation.

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Registered: Jul 2006
Location: Deputy, Indiana
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We have had the same rules for years and people still don't know them. If they change them, they will never catch up.

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Registered: Dec 2016
Location: Ark/Miss
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Agreed, but long as they're on the back of the scorecard a cast can figure it out..

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Registered: Jan 2013
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Well the majority (the blow deep babblers ) like them the way they are in the 80's when they changed the rules they created the loopholes we have today that allow that type of dog to excell some will say look at the scores we are going to see at oaks must not be a problem that's in thick coon country you come down here in thin coon country a dog like that is miserable to hunt with and most of the problem is they have bred the dogs so tight on dogs that reproduce that fault they just use it to their advantage because they ain't got enough smarts or guts to do what they should do I won't hunt one if that's all I had to hunt I would qwit !!

If all of them but yours is babbling the rules goes out the window if you say somthing about it they find you offensive lol.

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In a area where hunts are quite small at times it would be nice for all dogs to draw together so you don't end up having to hunt alone but I do not see it increasing the amount of grands hunted

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I am going to give my opinion on how ukc hunts should run. Everyone hunt together. 5 cast wins equal nitech. 5 more cast wins equal grnitech. Pay performance money by cast wins. Takes away luck of drawing good guide. Use nitech rules. Put a countdown on the tree. Keep first tree at 125. Pay more frequently than once a year. Would be nice to raise value of performance point. I would be fine charging a membership fee every year of like $25 for anyone registering a dog or entering a hunt and put money in performance fund. Keep entry fees affordable like they are now. I believe that this setup would help draw people back to the ukc hunts.

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