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How many of you would hunt a dog that is aggressive on a tree?If you thought it could win would you put it in a hunt?Just be honest.Ive talked to a couple guys lately that thought is was good to have a dog like this.They want there dog to gut any dog that try's to tree with it.It seems there more popular in the money hunts.Whats your thoughts?

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Originally posted by Kler Kry
I personally have zero tolerance for an aggressive dog. The degree of aggressiveness doesn't matter as they will pass it on genetically. It is one trait that doesn't skip a generation. An aggressive dog had a parent that should have been spayed or cut on both ends.
It is like being pregnant! It either is or isn't. I have little respect for owner who knowingly enters one into a hunt. What kind of an example are you setting for our youth when you knowingly and willingly enter a mean dog?

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Some are man made.

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So do you think g&e fighting side was mean? How many did he breed? How many of his pup's are mean?

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Kevin, I believe that the two at tree are not involved with the fight so they "Do Not" get scratched just the two involved according to the way it was explained.

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I personally have zero tolerance for an aggressive dog. The degree of aggressiveness doesn't matter as they will pass it on genetically. It is one trait that doesn't skip a generation. An aggressive dog had a parent that should have been spayed or cut on both ends.
It is like being pregnant! It either is or isn't. I have little respect for owner who knowingly enters one into a hunt. What kind of an example are you setting for our youth when you knowingly and willingly enter a mean dog?

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Josh I'm not trying to be dramatic.Just trying to discuss something that needs talked about.I know you hunt the try to run in the big hunts and see a lot of what's going on.Your input is appreciated.

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Here's a question for some.

Is a rough tree dog the same as an aggressive dog?


IMO there's a difference between them. But just curious.

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Josh I'm not trying to be dramatic.Just trying to discuss something that needs talked about.I know you hunt the try to run in the big hunts and see a lot of what's going on.Your input is appreciated.

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Do you consider a dog that blows back when he is trying to be pushed from his spot to be aggressive?

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Do you consider a dog that blows back when he is trying to be pushed from his spot to be aggressive?

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Well I guess I should've stated rough as in tree jacking, throwing their head, face barking when another dog stats jumping on them?

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everyone want's to have that dream dog that just backs off a foot or two and stays tree n never leaves but that isn't what we always get.
you raise, train them and hope they turn out good but you get what you get. if you own enough dogs you will have dogs that are to mean and to sissy. both are crappy culls.

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everyone want's to have that dream dog that just backs off a foot or two and stays tree n never leaves but that isn't what we always get.
you raise, train them and hope they turn out good but you get what you get. if you own enough dogs you will have dogs that are to mean and to sissy. both are crappy culls.

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I want my dog to depend on the government , all dogs created equal , have the same aggression , and be just a passive , I want him to have the same volume , I want him to run just as fast and walk just as slow , I want him to be just as ugly and sexy as your dog , I want my dog to be gutless with no heart and Drive Like your dog ,

Now Ed if you really want my honesty draw me in a hunt , and I will prove to you not all Handlers are created equal , Because I want the best dog to win ,

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That's ridiculous

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What an interesting number of differing opinions. For me it is pretty simple.

Any dog that shows unnecessary aggression so as to have the tree all to themselves, is in my opinion, mean and should not be entered, and (if entered) should be scratched.

Any dog that exhibits aggression in order to stay treed with the above mentioned dog, should not be scratched, and should be allowed to continue until said dog exhibits undue aggression with any other dog in said cast. After undue aggression has been identified any/all dogs should then be scratched.

Now determining which dog crossed that said line of undue aggression, is most times very hard to identify.

But for someone to type on a post that they want theirs to be the last dog standing when the fight breaks out, is a pretty true reflection of the mentality of that owner/handler. That person respects very few (if any) opponents in their travels, and their dog is a cut of the same cloth so to speak.

Without respect for our common man and beast, we have very little left to be proud of. So if that is your game, own it proudly, just don't expect the general public to be knocking your door down to breed to your dog or hunt something out of it.

Let me say this, I too want my dog to stay on any tree so long as it can do so without receiving a (SERIOUS) injury. But there are some dogs being hunted that are truly nasty and would rather fight another dog than fight the coon they were bred to tree. If you hunt that style dog, don't cry when you do get scratched. If your dog will tree Politely until something else grabs it, then this post is not directed toward you. Now lets just see where you and your style dog fits into this equation. Good Hunting to all and the best of luck to all this coming weekend!!!

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I want my dog to depend on the government , all dogs created equal , have the same aggression , and be just a passive , I want him to have the same volume , I want him to run just as
fast and walk just as slow , I want him to be just as ugly and sexy as your dog , I want my dog to be gutless with no heart and Drive Like your dog ,

Now Ed if you really want my honesty draw me in a hunt , and I will prove to you not all Handlers are created equal , Because I want the best dog to win ,

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I got a mean one and love it. That sucker will tear up a bowl of feed like there's no tomorrow. There won't be anything left. Not one bite. Kind of a big wieney in the woods though. Likes to back up on the tree if another dog is mean. He will be circling the tree barking up. But he don't leave.

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Need to give them mean/ill headed dogs a shot of hot lead. That will stop them.

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How many times can a dog be scratched for fighting before it may not be entered in a comp hunt?

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http://www.ukcdogs.com/Web.nsf/WebP...chedForFighting

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THIS IS WHAT MY 2 CENTS IS. I GUESS EVERYONE HAVES THERE OWN OPINION, THATS WHY WE LIVE IN THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH, I DAM SURE DONT AGREE WHATS GOIN ON THESE DAYS, NOW HUNTIN A MEAN DOG THAT U KNOW THAT LOVES TO FIGHT, WELL THERE SHOULD ONLY BE ONE THING DONE TO THAT DOG, HE SHOULD HAVE A BULLET RIGHT BETWEEN HIS EYES, I DONT CARE HOW MUCH WINNING THIS DOG HAS WON ETC, IF U BREED HIM MORE THAN LIKELY HIS FIGHTING ARE GOIN BE PAST DOWN, THE OWNERS OF THESE DOGS KNOW THIS, AND YES THERE ARE GOIN BE FIGHTS MOST FROM THIS GATORS,
WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF U HAVE THAT PRICE COON DOG GATOR AND IT BIT "UR GRANDBABY OR UR CHILD" ???


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My kids play with my coondogs daily.If one raises its hair or lays its ears back its gone.Ive had a few and I can't tolerate it......One time I got to the tree and I seen a dog put my females whole head in its mouth.I kicked it right in the nuts so hard it took off like it was shot out of a cannon!lol.Guy said where did my dog go?I said he won't be back.

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