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tylerman
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What does it cost....what is the worth...400 divided by 30 equals 13

13 bucks a day to kennel...feed..water..shovel...and work your dog

And we actually hunt the dogs....just like yesterday and last night

Day and night till they get it right...proving the nay sayers wrong...beating the liars with proof they eats at em still everyday....people know real truth....and all credibility is lost for those who chose the be fool enough to lie about us and try to tell you about how to start a dog...that which they do not do..proof will always outperform...and we will always tell the truth.

Over and over...day after day...month after month....winner after winner

Last night...

Chad Mccoins..sage

Neon Red Blood

Matt Seeleys...fog

Marvin Nash...strum

Sadie

William Durstine....Mike Zavada ..Tank

Shane Smith ...Bryan Whitted...flash

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tylerman
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Work...Work...WORK ...in steady progression of reps...who actually hunts the dogs...with real live coon....some people actually do what they say...bring us a good one...we will put the time in...they don't all make it and we don't have magic wands or magic potion to pour in the ears to make the grey matter between the ears be what genetics want allow....if it's in em..we will find it.

Don't be like the wannabes who can't get anywhere in a lifetime of telling others how to do what they never have....1st step...don't let pride get in the way and get a better bred dog...don't be fooled by lines of no hunt mee too dogs that were never independent and have to be trained to be what they never were bred to be...look for lines of winners...world placements lined in pedigrees

Here is one

And another

And another

And another

And another

And even more

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12-24-2019 03:53 AM

tylerman
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We still hunting. Others talk of greatness , though it's more talk than happening, we let the good ones show us...I know what I see in front of me. WE all know it when they start winning...and they win in numbers that the talkers will never see. It takes real work. Dogs don't learn in a kennel. And great dogs are bred and learn in reps of progressive work. You can not...can not call common great , although some try to sell it to those gullible enough to folow illusions instead or real truth

Let's try to keep it real..with real truth...you will grow faster...and end up at a higher level with better stock. It comes easier...with less excuses...less work..put breeding in front of your ego and it's better for everyone.

Dillon Graves
Crash with his 1st lesson

Jim Kirkpatrick walker female

Neon red crazy

Shane Smith's flash

Chad mccoins sage

Mike Zavada..tank

Tim Applebees ira

Neon red blood

Matt Seeleys fog

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01-03-2020 07:59 PM

tylerman
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We still working....still out working the haters..the ones that hate truth as it exposes fakes,,phoneys..wannabees..never were types...sone have made great claims..talk down those of us that have always told the truth...those of us that really do the work...those of us that hold liars accountable.And winners after winners that have won..what they never..ever..ever have prove they ain't got what it takes....poor dogs make weak men lie.

Great dogs make us look good...bred into them is greatness..we help find it...enhance it with reps of real coon....real coon. Progressive reps without constant discipline...some use discipline because of embarrassment..or frustration...but mostly uneducated base of decisions. Its training...train 1st...There is a time for all....but it has to be correct..corrections.

Dog care is important..to be fed..watered..housed..clean conditions...then opportunity has to be given...that's where the difference is made

John and Zach Maxeys hank and jewel

Dillon Graves ..Crash
Matt Goetz ..rosie

Matt Seeleys.. fog

Sometimes we test em alone

Real coon..real wild coon...help make it happen

Proof of the truth of breeding and making training look good..this is a Bryan Whitted clean male to shane Smith's female...

We ain't done..we will be back at it again tomorrow and the next day...day and night..week after week..month after month...yr after yr..because it takes more than talk...talkers fade away as truth is unveiled of who does the work and who tells the truth

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01-13-2020 02:02 AM

tylerman
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Colder than dang it...but we still working

Come look us up on facebook..for videos and more info

Neon red kennels...Dave Collins...Camden ind

We start them here...we are not trying to get em to go a thousand yrds or run hr old tracks here in 30 days...we try to get them to tree easy ones on their own and with others so they can go home ready to single out....that's the goal....so we work day and night and the good ones make us look good with no excuses...no hype...many dogs leave here better than we say if they get hunted right.

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01-20-2020 12:02 AM

tylerman
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Still in the timber with young dogs....not old dogs..or old dog pup trainers...young dogs trying to get em to tree on their own

These methods work for the good ones...the good ones bred right make us all look good.

Why do some get to were others have not and will never be....reality...yes reality. Some can't see it..others don't want to see it...and some will try to convince others of what is not true.

Truth is always truth...not distorted facts...and it haunts those that chose to not tell it....watch the dogs leave here and go on to win ..over and over..month after month...bring us a good one...

Crash..Dillon graves

Neon Red Blood

Crash and blood

Matt Goetz...Rosie

Charlie Miller..Trump

Shane Smith flash

Flash and Trump

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01-29-2020 04:40 PM

tylerman
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Some of the fellas done some winning....

The methods work....on the good dogs...truth outperforms the liars month after month..over and over...we work day and night and the good ones make us look good...get a better bred line of hounds and it wont be so hard...

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02-23-2020 08:28 PM

tylerman
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Congrats to Duell Murphy and piper in the final 4 of truck hunt...

Can you imagine never seeing these methods...having absolutely no idea what we do here...and making a major campaign against us for yrs becuase of hate and you've been beat by dog's that have been here repeatedly...never had a dog go as far in the hunts that have been here....then have to have people look at you now and know they know what you said and have learned the truth.....over and over......people can no longer believe you as you ruined your credibility....these kind of people don't want to be accountable for their actions....illusions and false info will never beat real truth....truth outperforms these kind of people and better bred dogs are easier to get to the level of big hunts...

We do the work..take care of a hound....and tell the truth

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03-02-2020 06:36 PM

tylerman
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You build winners by work....work of enhancing traits...traits from top breedings...day and night...month after month...yr after yr..building winners. Ain't no magic....

You notice some big talkers..trash talkers...all they do is talkers never seem to get far...yr after yr they fall short...very short

Others seem to get way farther much more often without all the illusions to try to cover up a failed program.

The good ones make you look good...if you pumping out litter after litter and you claim to have the best....but never ever get to where others are....no big hunt winners....you have been weighed and measured....truth outperforms the lies.

We hunt..we like to train more than discipline dogs. Dogs learn by repetition...traits can be enhanced but never installed. That's why breeding is important and if you are doing the same thing...and still have no big hunt winners...people watch..people know...your foundation has failed

Bryan Whitted ...dexter

Bolt

New one in of Tim Gump...elly may

Matt Seeleys fog

Neon Red Crazy

Jim Kirkpatrick walker female Belle

Shane Smith's flash

Bryan w hitted

Kate and flash

Crazy and belle

Neon Red Blood

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03-31-2020 04:54 PM

tylerman
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The haters can't finish their own dogs....the haters have never started a dog that got in final 4 of truck hunt...they ain't started any dogs that got to 6th in world..then last yr ..they didn't get any in final 100..but we started 10th and 11th place winners...they didn't start anything that went to pic state leaders....they only talk...we work...it's hard work...lazy men complain and make excuses...we have helped a good many dogs get on and move up list....that's why haters hate...they will never ever be where we can help you get to. Takes better dogs than some haters will ever own. We tell the truth and it outperforms haters that can't tell it....

We work day and night.....till they get it right

We ain't ever begged for a dog to hunt

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tylerman
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Common men with common dogs get common results or less....and a true ignorant man calls it greatness and trys to belittle those who outwork...breed and train better dogs..and that ignorant man will never ever have the accomplishments that better men with better bred dogs always have.

Extrodinary men are nothing more than ordinary men who always..ever day..always do extra...lazy men will never reach the same goals

Truth...Truth is the difference in men...some can not tell truth for fear and have to tell lies to to try to fool others to hide the shame.

We work....with effort comes rewards...you see we work em day and night...day lessons until they are ready for night time test...work of steady progressions as the dog improves

Trenton Morris

Brian Baxter

Bryan Whitted

Matt Seeley

Craig White

Brock Montgomery

Tim Gump

Shane Smith

Shane Smith

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tylerman
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We are trying to get caught up..get room..like always we are a month or so behind on guys wanting to get dogs in...we are blessed to never ever have to ask or beg for a dog or advertise we have room for 1...that should speak volumes to anyone who can think for themselves. Those who spent great effort to try to denounce us and our methods....have failed..fell short..they were weighed and measured and laughed at. Time proves even to foolish men who follow liars who tells the truth. But it's always easier to tell another lie than for them to admit they followed and believed a fool...we do the work...and it shows in time....Truth...Truth is..you don't see the haters winning anything..nada...it boils down to they hurt all over cause we won't help or lie for them...

Tim Applebees lizzy

Trenton Morris..mayhem
Tim Gump...elly may

Ron white

Matt Seeley

Nick Miller

Brock Montgomery

Luke lock..sugar

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tylerman
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Some of the red winners of the past....don't let em deceive you and don't let em forget...we had a part of a great many good ones...helped push repo numbers up...helped change the truth of history. These were not small backyard hunts or low entry numbers....it's always easier with a better bred hound

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06-18-2020 09:46 PM

tylerman
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Truth still outperforming the liars...

The better bred dogs keep showing up..and the good ones make us look good.

Go to Neon Red Kennels

Or Dave Collins on facebook...videos and pics...way easier to get them posted than here.

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08-17-2020 03:41 AM

tylerman
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Good dogs make us look good...

better bred dogs always show up at the top

Look at those who spout the most..they are never worth much as a person.

We work harder than some talk...if a dog has it we will find it...not 1 dog a month..several dogs a month and have been doing it for yrs.

More dogs have left here and went on to win and title than some can borrow and title..fact..it hurts some but its truth

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09-14-2020 09:06 PM

tylerman
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We start with some cage coon-then some hidey go seek no see em- then on to release coon and some feeders then with older dogs if needed and try to get em to tree easy coon on their own...if they cant tree easy ones they may never tree a harder one. reps-drills-workouts with lots of coon is your best chance,if its in em to get out

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10-06-2020 01:21 PM

Joseph Nalley
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Few questions how old do you like a pup to be before you take them? Have you started any pup or dog that won any hunts or big competition? What it cost to get a pup started? How long dose ittake to get a pup started? What the cost to handle a dog in the hunts? Got any references? Its seem like ya work hard, and have thes passion for it.

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tylerman
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quote:
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Few questions how old do you like a pup to be before you take them? Have you started any pup or dog that won any hunts or big competition? What it cost to get a pup started? How long dose ittake to get a pup started? What the cost to handle a dog in the hunts? Got any references? Its seem like ya work hard, and have thes passion for it.

Whew..ill try to start here..
Age..depends on dog..maturity..I prefer they come lead load a lil and raising heck with a coon

Wins...sure..but I start em..good ones make us look good and someone has to take and hunt the hair off one without ruining it..you can go back through the pages and see winners..but im not so arrogant to keep a list...I have to worry about the next group. There are plenty of people living in the past. If they aint born with the grey matter between their ears, there is no one with a magic potion to make em

Cost is 400 a month for now..a bag of feed and must be up to date on all shots..most top prospects if ready will be a month or 2 .

I dont hunt dogs in hunts ..to be the best you can at whatever you do ...you cannot start a few...single a few...hunt a few in hunts every month and keep proper care of hounds and keep promises. I'll leave the take your money and make promises I'll never keep..to the guys who have no guilt.

References...look back through the pages....but my best answer here to you would-be...if you dont know or trust a man...I would not send him a dog...most dogs brought here are from repeat customers....im blessed but I have never had to beg for a dog to start.

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tylerman
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Send me a good one..it won't get abused or wasted here...lots of opportunity of coon tracks...if there aint coon..hard to make a coondog..we work on reps of short tracks and tree work in progressive steps to build confidence and experiance

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Any exciting news that we didnt expect to happen this weekend?..

We went to work..Ill post some pics of last couple days of our efforts....cause talk dont get it done. It takes effort to get a start on the next generation of winners...and I still wont takebred to be lazy, ill or low percentage dog lines no matter how hard they try to worm them things in here. Lost way to much time in the past with em dont need a repeat history lesson

But lets talk about the good ones...

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10-28-2020 02:24 PM

tylerman
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Remeber...to be the man...you gotta beat the man..not cheat the man....some will never learn. ...tuff talkers who won't work or breed better dogs don't last

We work on short tracks and trees...reps of progressive longer and older tracks...with opportunity of lots of coon and no abuse..#####you want your dog beat and shocked to death and not fed and watered daily....or just lay on a chain or kennel.....run with mean dogs..don't bring it here####.

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what did ya do yesterday...talk or get something done.. cause we cant all be internet experts

couple of videos

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11-07-2020 02:34 PM

tylerman
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Look here...we still working

Not everyone or everything is always as it appears....not everyone will do as they say....you got a get off the couch and can't be an internet troller and claim to know it all. Greatness comes from constantly working towards it.

We do the work and care for a hound....we don't blow smoke or look to ruin our credibility with lies or calling common great....plenty who will fill that bill for ya.

We start several dogs a month...have for yrs...all yr ....and take pride in trying to get every dog farther along.

We don't just talk about it..we work daily for dogs to receive reps and steps of training to find what they need.

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11-30-2020 07:39 PM

tylerman
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Well got messages..2 more dogs got cast wins that left here...

Fools telling you these methods won't work..irreversible damage they said....and yet them pups just keep on winning in spite of their trying to bad mouth us

Cage trained phenomenons...

The methods we use starts with using some cage caught coon...then onto the feeders and then into the wold...in the right progression...here again..the haters tried to claim it would ruin dogs...but month after month...winners...and now the haters and liars are real quiet and not winning anything..nada

We out work the haters and talkers

We won't a call a common dog great...we won't fake title dogs or hook crook and screw to try to fill a hole in our soul. People know the truth
And even the foolish find out in time cause times reveals the truth...always will. Truth will always outperform the liars

Bring us a good one...you shouldn't have to work so hard ...scheme and just let the dog prove its worth.

The good ones make us all look good

Want to create an Impact...make sure is not detrimental in time...some will never know or admitt the damage they have done

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tylerman
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You dont get results talking about it. We have to see it in front of us before we make a judgement..and have to see it more than once..And if ya want to be like everyone else you do it their way...but...if they aint been where you want to see dogs go...you dang sure better do things better than they have.Or you can be a follower of almost good enough but we will call it great theory cult.

We hunt..train..day and night and if its bred in there..it will have a chance to come out.

Del Hudsons english female Lilly
Peel and Smiddys red male Cash

Brian Jenneweins red female Bad Intentions
Katana outs fords pepper and sanders Pow

Q3 with some alone time

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12-31-2020 10:09 PM

tylerman
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Day and night till they get it right...with real live coon...can't make a coon dog without coon.takes work...coon..lots of coon.feeeders...and great care of a hound...lot more than just running a dog to some timber...you have to prepare your dog and be able to get on good coon tracks or get coon moving