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Originally posted by Dave Hainz
I just picked up a 6 year old female. She is heavy Spring Creek bred.

--------GRNITECH PR SPRING CREEK DODGER
---NITECH GRFCH PR SPRING CREEK ROWDY
--------NITECH GRFCH GRCH PR HAMUS SPRING CREEK MAR-GEE

CH PR HIDRETH'S ROCK RIVER ROSE

--------GRNITECH PR SPRING CREEK DODGER
---PR SPRING CREEK TROUBLES
--------PR SPRING CREEK DAWN

She is in heat right now and I plan on breeding her to Briar Cliff Battle - Night Champion, Grand Show Champion.

----------- GRNITE CH. ROCK RIVER SACKETT
---- CH GRNITE CH. ROCK RIVER SACKETT JR.
---------- GRNITE CH. SKEAN'S DOLLY
GRNITE CH. BABES STYLISH BANJO
-------DAUL GRCH. HOUSE LIPPER
------ NITE CH. LIPPER STYLISH BABE
---------GRNITE CH. SCMENSAL'S STYLISH QUEEN

NITE CH. GR CH. PR. BRAIR CLIFF BATTLE

----------DUEL GR CH. HOUSE LIPPER
------CH. BRIAR CLIFF QUINT
-----------LAYMANCE'S SALLY
GR CH. BRIAR CLIFF RACIE
-----------PIKES PRESTWOOD MACK
------JERI'S RED OAK POLLY
-----------PIKE'S SANDY CREEK DAISY

The pups will be super staked and UKC performance program.

If your interested, my number is 608-921-7836.

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I agree with WalkerCash why ruin the breeding that some one took the time to make but then I guess the other stud dog needs that good old blood for some super pups. After almost 18 years of breeding Spring Creek Rock you can breed them to anything and come up with something! One of the great old timers always told me never breed to a dog because of his titles anybody can put titles on a dog but never ever breed a female or male to a lesser coon dog cause then you bring the genectics that you are trying to keep are deluted ever time you breed to the lesser dog be it the female or male. Family related dogs always produce better than non related dogs thats the difference between one or two top dogs out of a litter than all top hunting dogs in a litter and why some have such a hard time with whole litter after litter making top hunting dogs. After all these years the only time I have seen pups not turn out of the line of dogs we started out with are the guys that want a finish dog right off the chain with out doing the work. Thats why some guys are good at training dogs and some are not. You will get some that are natural that just do it from the start and you have some that are just slow at starting than others that call breeding and hunting them and giving the slow ones a little more time where as most don't have the patience for starting pups but need one already started. Not saying the Battle dog isn't a good dog just don't care for his bloodlines.

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Dave,
You can book me a female out of that cross right now. I love the Banjo line of dogs and if the spring creek rock line is as good as I have heard, it shouldn't matter what you breed to. A guy I know in Ky has two Battle pups that have been treeing since they were 7 months old and they are unbelievablely loud....This should be an awesome cross....

Let me know where I need to send the deposit.

Tim

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I must say when i was younger I was spring creek rock blind i didnt think there was any other breedin then SCR didnt care for pac man or finley river and i wish i could get some good old SCR breeding

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Walkercash, Ruby 50541

Thank you for your input. It is noted. I believe that the female in any cross should be your foundation and that is why I bought her. I believe in MY stud dog's reproducing ability and I like the traits he has to offer. Big mouth and tracking/treeing ability. Plus he is from a bloodline of coondogs, not just papered dogs. Since I have a Stud dog that I am promoting, I will never breed to another, that would do nothing for mine.

Thanks again for your input

Dave Hainz

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Somebody previously mentioned that the "old blood of yesteryear" was gone and replaced by new lines... Yadkin River was named as one of them.
I recently read that the Yadkin River line goes back to the 1930's. I'd say that's hardly "new" blood! I'd stand to bet it is actually one of the oldest bloodlines that is still around for any breed.
And I'm not even a walker person! Redbone here. Just wanted to add my two cents worth...

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One of my old Rock dogs;

1983 Walker Days Winner Gr.Nite Champion Spring Creek Dummy

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Originally posted by JayTom
I have been out of coonhunting for eleven years. I am starting back now but I have missed some things I guess. When I stopped hunting Spring Creek Rock was the line breed to have. What has happened to all the Spring Creek dogs? I haven't seen Spring Creek in a single Ped. yet.

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What dog is Dee II from?

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E-LIM-N-ATOR was the last really up close dog i heard out of rock.he was a direct son and a dual grand champion by the time he was 1 year old.
you ought to see the hound i have out of him,biggest,blockiest head you ever seen.and he weghs 90 pounds.his names jack
if you have any old bloodlines magazines,jack is in the september 99 issue.
he is 9 years old now.
if you hear or see of E-LIM-N-ATOR,let me know.i need more pups. thanks and good luck.

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What about the Elimonator Dog? Wasnt he spring creek rock?


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yes,he was but at 12,500.00 for rock semen that is a hard price ot bill.and you wonder why it is dying out!

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spring creek jesse is the grand pup of rock,direct son of elmo.

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steve kinney who used to live by menmonie mi had a spring creek rock male, and said he bought alot of the rock semen, he has since moved and i am not sure where he went, this was about 10 years or so ago, he was my ex's cousin i dont know if he still has any hounds yet or where he and his family moved to

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Does anyone know the Ped. on Dummy???

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My female Gr.Nite Champion Monty's Jamin Jody. Jody was direct off Dummy and a direct daughter off Rock called Nt.Ch. Thomas' Ia Cindy, she was a good one. Picture was taken at Walker Days, Waverly Iowa 1992 I think. 2nd place Gr.Nt.Ch.

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MR. GUSSE CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT SPRING CREEK DUMMY.
DUMMY WAS IN ALOT OF PED'S.THOUGH THE YEARS.

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Dummy was a no nonsense coondog {nose, accurate}, he had a real good hound clear bawl mouth and was a tree dog second to none. I have a tape of him treed with Gr. Nite Champion Spring Creek Hammer somewhere. He was a joy to have around, he was anything but dumb like the name apply's.

Dummy was out of Rock and Stintson's Kate {she was Kaw River Chief bred}.

Here is a picture of Gr. Nite Champion Spring Creek Hammer

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Here is a pic of Gr. Nite Champion Spring Creek Dodger, Dodger was Sugar Loaf Chief bred on the bottom.

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Another direct son off Rock, Dual Grand Champion Clifton River Rock.

Picture was taken at 1988 Autumn Oaks in Oak Harber, Oh.

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Dummy was a no nonsense coondog {nose, accurate}, he had a real good hound clear bawl mouth and was a tree dog second to none. I have a tape of him treed with Gr. Nite Champion Spring Creek Hammer somewhere. He was a joy to have around, he was anything but dumb like the name apply's.

Dummy was out of Rock and Stintson's Kate {she was Kaw River Chief bred}.

Here is a picture of Gr. Nite Champion Spring Creek Hammer

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You guys are welcome. Those pics sure do bring back some good memories.

I just want to say that two of the nicest guys I've ever met are responsible for all the Rock blooded hounds and they are my good friends Duane Clark, and Mike Boone. Just keep em away from the Shoney Buffet's!!

My next stud, if I decide to stud him some day.

No he's not Rock blooded, but I do have a line on a Hammer, Tee- Gee, Dummy, Jamin Jody blooded female that might be crossed on him.

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Monty,
That is a fine looking hound!!

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Monty,
That is a fine looking hound!!

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where did the hard time speck dog come
from? i know he was single reg.

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