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I've seen it happen more than once, years ago . Coon crosses the road in front of the truck . Drop a dog or 2 on him and they cant do anything with it at all. Once the landowner pulled up when we stopped. Needless to say we didn't impress him. Seen the same thing with beagles after shooting at and missing rabbits What causes it ?

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With beagles and missing the rabbit I was always the scent of the lead and gun powder would mess the dog up till they got past the point seem like it would slow are beagles down at that point for an extra minute but never enough to make them lose it...

For coons crossing the road I know you have to give enough time for scent to lift off the ground otherwise there is basically nothing there for a dog to run. AMD a coon seen crossing seldom trees quick I wont turn out on them

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I don’t know but have seen it a bunch. Kinda like when they open when you’re rigging but can’t smell it on the ground. Sometimes they will run the backtrack on a road crossing coon too. At least mine have but I know no one on here would ever have one that does any of the above. lol

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I learned, if i keep driving, then go back, ends out a lot better. Lol

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I've seen it happen more than once, years ago . Coon crosses the road in front of the truck . Drop a dog or 2 on him and they cant do anything with it at all. Once the landowner pulled up when we stopped. Needless to say we didn't impress him. Seen the same thing with beagles after shooting at and missing rabbits What causes it ?

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How many of you ever shook a coon out and the dogs had to get out from under tree a ways to pick it up?

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How many of you ever shook a coon out and the dogs had to get out from under tree a ways to pick it up?

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i once dropped a dog on a road coon like that and she trailed a little without opening and never treed it. i wasnt too pleased with her then i learned that thats just the way it is

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i once dropped a dog on a road coon like that and she trailed a little without opening and never treed it. i wasnt too pleased with her then i learned that thats just the way it is

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half the time the dog will run the coon backwards for a short way

just drive down the road and come back and turn the dog loose on the side of the road the way the coon was traveling U will have better results

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I don't know why it is but if you just go on and come back 10-15 min later they can run them.

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It has to do with the scent not rising from the ground. And I agree if you give it a few minutes the dog(s) can run it then and they tend not to look goofy.

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I've turned deer dogs out on a deer that crossed the road and nothing. You got to wait till the scent settles.

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Imagine it from the dogs perspective. One minute you are just driving along, then bang and slam on the brakes, get pulled out by your collar, lights blinding you and thrown in to the ditch, usually no where near where the coon crossed. Not only are you a little out of sorts but all you can smell is the inside of the box.
Try this next time, stop, get the dog out and let him set for a couple minutes, clean his nose out, if he's a coondog he'll get it done.

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Maybe I’ve just been lucky but my hound rides shotgun and he’s always been able to run a hot Coon that crossed the road

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I was told by old coonhunters that they all experience this phenomenal holding of the animals scent and it takes 5 to 10 minutes for a scent to show up for the dogs. When they are frightened some times the hold their scent. Just like a deer releases its scent when it dies. If you ever noticed that strong pungent smell of deer.

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I was told by old coonhunters that they all experience this phenomenal holding of the animals scent and it takes 5 to 10 minutes for a scent to show up for the dogs. When they are frightened some times the hold their scent. Just like a deer releases its scent when it dies. If you ever noticed that strong pungent smell of deer.

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I'm guessing most of you never heard of Obe Corey. He was a professional lion hunter from Idaho. He wrote articles in Full Cry every month about 40 years ago. He said he had dogs that could take a 7 day old lion track, trail it up and tree the lion. But if they were running one hot and crossed a road, they had trouble picking up the track. He had theories about lions holding scent or their scent changing when crossing openings, but never really knew the reason.

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I remember ObeCorey very well, always enjoyed his articles. I have witnessed many times beagles making loses on rabbit tracks crossing or running the roads, as well as dogs not smelling hot coon tracks crossing roads. Don't exactly know why, but roads just mess up a dogs tracking ability, once they leave the road the digs have no problem tracking. Dave

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If the theory of having to wait for the scent to rise was right, every time the dog started getting close to the coon he'd lose it because the scent was "too hot"?????? I'm not understanding the logic on that one.

Other theory of: coon holding his scent???? If he could do that, why would he ever leave it behind??

The idea of a nose full of dog box sounds very possible, but there's not much that's more discouraging than putting a dog on that road coon and getting nothing.

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You all raise valid points but how do you explain a dog striking one from the truck? I had an old dog that would do that pretty often (I let her ride loose in the bed). If she barked, pull over and let her go. She'd be treed before you could get your light strapped on and you'd see about 90% of them.

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I've been thinking off and on about this. I don't seem to have much trouble on dirt roads with coons unless its been bad dry here. But food for thought..... Could it be the different scents from the vehicles on the road? Like oil scent or gas or something along those lines? I've had dogs rig out of the truck before like what has been said, they were treed in very short order usually.

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