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I quoted the rule lol.



Ok at the end of the night Carson dogs are running time is up dog is going to beat you on a tie breaker with circle you going to circle that strike or draw a line through it ? It's the same thing !!!



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Here's how I understand the how the rules apply for the question asked, but I'm young and dumb and have been wrong plenty lol,

Dog C was never shut out, he was struck in before the others treed. he left the tree and was minused BUT his strike is still live and he is still accountable for his strike points.

If the tree had been minused, dog C is minused his strike

If the tree had been plussed, dog C is minused his strike

Since tree is circled, dog C's strike is circled

None of which calls for any deleting

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I quoted the rule lol.



Ok at the end of the night Carson dogs are running time is up dog is going to beat you on a tie breaker with circle you going to circle that strike or draw a line through it ? It's the same thing !!!



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Yes you're gonna draw a line thru the strike points at the end of the hunt because that's one of the five times rule 5 tells you to delete points. You're quoting rules but you're quoting the wrong rules. And no it's absolutely not the same thing.

Jim FedEx me a slap will ya. Send it C.O.D. at this point I deserve it.

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Donnie I know what the rule says but do you think that dog deserves a circle for quitting his track when he could come back and beat you on a tie breaker with it ?



I am trying to make y'all think slap me if you want evidently y'all ain't getting it next year is rule change year I can wait till then to show you things if you want lmbo. I know where they all are lol.



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It doesn't matter if we think he deserves it or not, rule 5b under the "Circle Points" column says we have to

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quote:
Originally posted by jkidd1
Here's how I understand the how the rules apply for the question asked, but I'm young and dumb and have been wrong plenty lol,

Dog C was never shut out, he was struck in before the others treed. he left the tree and was minused BUT his strike is still live and he is still accountable for his strike points.

If the tree had been minused, dog C is minused his strike

If the tree had been plussed, dog C is minused his strike

Since tree is circled, dog C's strike is circled

None of which calls for any deleting



Actually you are half right.
If tree is minused dog c would have his strike CIRCLED.
the only time you would minus strike for dog c is if tree was plus.

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Thank you bob no matter what dog c unless there is a coon gets a free pass that's what I am trying to say but hunt with outdated rules if they want lol.





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It doesn't matter if he was on a different tree or what happened when we weren't there the out come is the same. His strike points are circled. How is giving the wrong answer to a question making us think? How about the right answer and then point out that at the end of the night that dog could beat you on a tie breaker?

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Thank you bob no matter what dog c unless there is a coon gets a free pass that's what I am trying to say but hunt with outdated rules if they want lol.





Tar



I like you Tar but I just cant understand you sometimes. What Bob said was exactly what the other page of comments said that you disagreed with.

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We had this same conversation a while back and I said the same thing although I got more to agree with me last time lol. here is where I am at it don't matter if you are at a tree or in the middle of a bald prairie if a dog quits a track it should be minused just because the rules say different don't make it right. Ok say that tree was slick who got the best deal ? That rule is obsolete it can defiantly punish the wrong dog. I know what it says I got a card setting right here I also know how to twist it what I meant was bob basicly said the dog got a free pass that's what I meant an unfinished track should always be deleted or minused a dog walking into a tree after you get there is an unfinished track jmo.



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Tar

I think we all can agree that this rule needs changed, but as it stands, we all have to abide by the RULE and not by what we think should be done, If everyone would just go by the RULES in place and not by their take on things, it would be fair to everyone. I see the real problem is when we start applying our own desires and not the RULE itself. If everyone plays by the same rules, it's just as fair to one as it is the other, it's not fair when the RULES are misapplied . Dave

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No, it doesn't need changed Dave. PKC has the very same rule except they delete instead of circling because in PKC, hunts are won and lost with circle points. I can't ever recall a UKC hunt won on circle points as a tiebreaker, it's that rare.
The title of this post was "Minor scoring question." and that is just what it is. It shouldn't have gotten 5 responses.

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I still think this rule stinks, I believe a dog quitting a track should get minus points period, I will abide by the RULE in place, but still don't like it. We ALL should know the RULES of any game we are playing and abide by those rules if we choose to play. Nuff said! Dave

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No, it doesn't need changed Dave. PKC has the very same rule except they delete instead of circling because in PKC, hunts are won and lost with circle points. I can't ever recall a UKC hunt won on circle points as a tiebreaker, it's that rare.
The title of this post was "Minor scoring question." and that is just what it is. It shouldn't have gotten 5 responses.





You responded 5 times on this one !!


And 4 times on the other one in which I had no response your a rule addict you need counceling lmbo.




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Tar you might need another cup of coffee this morning lol


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Now he's needs a cold beer



Neah board was getting boring beer gives me gas lol.



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I WOULD LIKE TO CIRCLE TREES ON POSSUM!

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How could such a minor scoring question become such a major one and get so complicated?

Because Tar got involved.

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The one by slim shady was simpler than that and I didn't have nothing to do with it don't be a blamen me lol. That was 2 pages too lol.



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I see what Tar is getting at. He wants strike deleted so those circle points can't win a tie. Rules plainly say those strike points get circled. Here is the way I see it.... maybe that dog was coming back in to try to pick up the track and move it out and by rule had ti be handled. At least he didn't stick the slick like the two wood monsters!

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Here is anouther twist they got a coon he gets minus they got a possum he gets circle lol




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The one by slim shady was simpler than that and I didn't have nothing to do with it don't be a blamen me lol. That was 2 pages too lol.



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I WOULD LIKE TO CIRCLE TREES ON POSSUM!
Say what !! we always do !! you mean you not suppose to !! oodang !!lol

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Its not the rule but I think any dog thats struck deserves minus for coming into any dead tree after the cast gets there no matter what kc it is.

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