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Majority rules. If its 2 to 2 it goes with the judge, but it's not a automatic cast vote like the three being asked about. The way it's written it doesn't even take a vote to go into to them, but it's the judges decision on if they are treeing in a hole or not. Obviously one dog is going to need to be showing the hole.

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quote:
Originally posted by HERSHSHUNTIN
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all other situations are made by the judge, but if questioned at the time of ruling it goes to a vote by cast members

and on these other rulings a 2 to vote the tie still goes to the judge and his buddy and his call remains finial . lol

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How about some more responses to the actual question?

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How about some more responses to the actual question?


Going off course only lends confusion to some. Thanks.

So what are the three things that automatically go to a cast vote and require a majority?

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1 Scoring a tree 2 Calling time out. 3 Cast going to a previously scored tree.

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I thought that the dog whisperer answered the original question very convincingly. He even gave the rule #'s. There shouldn't be any confusion. It is awfully hard to disagree with that. We are just filibustering now, just like Congress. We are just argueing but not getting anything done. We need our leader to step in and give us some direction.

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Scoring tree calling time out and dogs returning to previously scored tree.

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time out

scoring of tree

dogs treed on previous tree

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Was hoping to see more responses but that's ok. Might have been tougher than I thought it would be.

A: When hunting judges are used, the hunting judge makes all decisions, expect for three things that automatically require a majority of the cast vote. Of course, if there's a question as to how the hunting judge is/is not scoring a situation, then there's a procedure in place for a handler to question the call that was made/not made. That procedure requires a handler to request a cast vote. It then takes a majority to overrule the hunting judge.

But those three things that automatically require a majority of a cast vote are:

1. (Scoring Trees)
This applies to scoring trees plus or minus only. A majority vote is required to plus a tree (see the coon) / to minus a tree. Some handlers tend to incorrectly assume a majority of the cast also decides on situations such as two trees being scored as one or whether or not the coon seen in the next tree over could have crossed over from the tree the dog is treed on, etc.. These type of situations are not the same as scoring a tree plus or minus. Instead the judge makes the decision, AND THEN, the tree is scored accordingly. If a handler is not satisfied how the judge ruled, one tree, two trees as one, crossover, etc.; then they may ask for a cast vote.

2. (Calling Time Out)
A majority vote is required to call time out, for any reason and at any time during a hunt. Those "reasons" that may be considered are noted under section 7.

3. (Previously Scored Tree)
In other words, a majority must agree that the tree had been previously scored. If a majority agrees that it was previously scored then all points are deleted for the dogs on this tree. If a majority is not reached, regular scoring procedures apply and the tree is scored accordingly.

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dang I got lucky

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