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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: North MO
Re: End of an Era
Originally posted by Mike Knuckols
With the prevalence of deep and lonely and the way most hunters are embarrassed or disgusted if their hound works with another dog in our area we don't have the acreage to hold a 2 hour hunt . Mine included is a big hunting dog . I haven't man made him like most of the guys training their dog to get away from others but half the time he checks out and does his thing . I have 1 lease that is around 750 acres and when I take a cast it works out to be 1 drop due to the dogs scattering . If I try for a second drop and we are trespassing . My question is why are so many whipping and shocking their hound to be solo unless they are just ill tempered and they cant stand to put them down . From what Ive witnessed if another dog covers one they get ate up or the solo dog leaves . I don't like a big eared dog either that quits and runs to another to back them it just takes around 2000 acres to hold a cast where you can recut . Recutting to me is what separates the elite hounds .unless we go the way of the deer hunter and lease up large tracks of land the competition part of hunting is going to disappear around here . what are others doing to find spots or tracts of land large enough for cast . Texas is not a right to retrieve state and they right some hefty tickets around here especially in deer season .
Mike as to your original question I think TX is a special case. Their property laws to my understanding are much more stringent than that of the Midwest, and the South East, so I can see how there is a larger problem than there is here. My personal experience at larger events the last few years is not so grim. We hunted in Salem a few weeks ago, and dogs got deep and the guides were all wonderful, and we had no problems in the 5 casts I was in. Personally we can handle casts here in North MO without trouble, even being along the IA line where deer hunting is so popular.
That being said I think the KCs are adapting to a difference in how we free cast large groups of dogs. The rules are changing, and while independence is still going to be popular, I think the big hunting dogs that have to be a mile before they get treed will get less and less popular.
We hunted a cast up here in April in which we never pulled a dog off of the same tree, and treed 11 coons in two hours, and never got off of a 600 acre tract. I realize coon population has a lot to do with it, but I hunt that same farm a lot and have seen dogs go straight through it before they got treed as well.
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