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Registered: Oct 2007
Location: argyle, iowa
Re: Concealed Weapons at a night hunt
Originally posted by French Creek
Interesting post guys. Before I start, I want to explain that I am a gun owner and obviously believe in gun owner's rights.
We do not need guns at night hunts. The obvious reason is because of potential problems. We all know that casts can get heated in a hurry. We have all been on hunt were someone was tryng to screw with us. We should have the right to stand up for ourselves and many do. Many hunters are reasonable people and a gun would not be used in some unreasonable fashion. At the same time I said MOST hunters. All it takes is one idiot that has seen too many action movies or is on some type of medication to lose his screws. Too many idiots want prove how tough they are. After they go to jail they aren't so tough anymore when they get housed with the gangster who killed another kid because he liked his shoes.
Guns intimidate people (I know, not you, you're the toughest). This will reduce the enjoyment of attending night hunts. Most of us want to attend a hunt to get away from the idiots that we deal with every day. Why should we be subject to an idiot with a gun? How many people would quit coming to hunts if they feel that they are going to draw out with an idiot carrying a gun?
Furthermore, we do not need guns at the hunt, it is not neccessary. (oh yeah, that one time a coyote was barking a 1000 yards from you and you got scared. Wish you would've had a gun to shoot at him.) If you are in a situation where you think you need a gun, then maybe you shouldn't be putting yourself and other hunters in that situation. Hunters spend a lot of time and money preparing for these hunts, they don't want to go to a hunt and be put into a bad situation. DON'T PUT YOURSELF OR OTHER HUNTERS INTO A SITUATION WHERE YOU NEED A GUN.
As far as the issue of having the right to carry a gun: Just because you have the legal right does not make it right. Example, you have the legal right to take a bicycle into church and ride it arround. "it's my legal right" Obviously, this is not morally right. We all have the right to protest and the right to free speech. This does not make it right to go to someone's funeral and have a rally protesting some other cause that you feel strongly about. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT, BUT IT IS NOT MORALLY RIGHT.
Unfortunately, coon hunters are frequently labled uneducated, redneck, inbred morons. Ideas like bringing guns to night hunts reinforces this prejudice. Every time some idiot uses a gun innappropriately (such as the case with the attempted assassination of the Arizona representative) it gives gun owners a bad name and threatens our rights as gun owners. All it will take is one idiot to do something stupid with a gun and we will see our rights be dimminished. How our night hunts are judged by the public is very important. We have to understand how important this is and do the very best that we can to represent ourselves in a positive light.
We are very fortunate that we have the rights to run dogs all year the way we do. We are fortunate to have the right to hunt on the lands that we can. Why should we risk losing what we have to satisfy a few who THINK that they need a gun?
We need to do a better job of representing ourselves to the public. We are in a huge battle with anti-hunting groups as it is. They are using the image of the redneck inbred idiot to drum up public support for their cause. They are being very successful and thousands of people are joining their movement. More city people are moving to the country and purchasing land that we once hunted. If we do not improve our image more regulations are coming and our rights will be eventually lost. Don't fuel their fire by being even dumber than the image we already have. When I tell people I have coonhounds some can't believe it. I asked one person why it was such a shock and they said, "because I know your parents aren't related and you can spell your own name correctly." This is a terrible image of coonhunters, and it makes it easy to pass laws against us. Lawmakers and the general public do not feed bad about regulating people that they don't respect. We know and understand the proud tradition of coonhunting, but we need to do a better job of representing that tradition to the best of our ability.
THE ONLY WEAPON NEEDED AT A NIGHT HUNT SHOULD BE AT THE END OF YOUR LEASH.
Todd Kellum and UKC, you are the professionals who represent us. Use some professionalism and integrity and take a moral stand.
So ridiculous It's hard to respond to.
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