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I was thinking what would we do if the 320 went belly up and we had a lost dog. Well knowing that the collars use VHF frequencies to transmit data to the 320 I set out to find out what those frequencies are. Using my Icom R-10, I found them. Now if the 320 fails I can use my R-10 and a yagi antenna and track them like the older beep, beep collars. Granted the dc50 and T5 we have only send a signal every so many seconds and are not as constant as the beepers but it is enough to track em. This is an emergency back up in a situation that may never happen, but I now have a plan B if it does.

So you guys with the R-10's or R-20's don't be so quick to get rid of em, ya never know !! What are my collars freq. ?? DC50 151.820mhz T5 is 151.590mhz. Your collars may be different, so you will have to experinment. Or if you have access to a radio frequency counter unit it will tell you within seconds.. My ham radio hobby does come in handy for coon hunting sometimes LOL...

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Hey that's pretty smart. Never thought of that. Always run a beep beep collar anyway.

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need an extra beep beep if you can tune into your Garmin.. It gives off a packet of data every 5 seconds or so,depending on your settings, it is not as easy as beeper but it will work.

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I don't have an icom or any other tracking box bcuz we run bear dogs and they guy I ride with does so if I lose a dog I can track it with his. But Ive got a 2 meter handheld that I cut on just now to try it. I got a beep from 151.810 through 151.825. I'm guessing you must've got a louder beep on the 820, but mine doesn't seem to change?

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used the r-10 on cw [morse code] mode so it would be very tight on recieve to narrow it down to the exact frequency. Your 2 meter handheld is FM very wide so it will hear the collar over a wide range as you just found out.

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Oh ok. Makes sense now

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have you tried to see what kind of distance. What about a wildlife 1000 tracking box would it also work or is this something you get extra with the Icom.

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will see simular distance as the 320. Your wildlife box would have to be able to tune the right frequency, if it is a 219 box then NO. The Icom will tune ANY frequency, that is the difference.

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So if you had a 151 box it would work. And does it "lose communication" as much as the 320?

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a 151 box would work as long as it covered the frequency of the collar, in my case 151.590 and 151.820.. You need to know what frequency your collars are on, it should be close I would think. I see frequency counters on Ebay for 15 bucks shipped free from China.. That will give you the exact frequency, They measure all Frequencies from 50Mhz up to 1 Ghz. as far as loosing signal I doubt it because it is only listening to the info. packets being sent not using the info. contained in the transmission them like the 320.

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Yeah, I competition hunt !! All Fall and Winter long.. My Blues compete with the local coon.. My Blues win a ton !!! We use and recommend MOONSHINER LIGHTS, Peggs , Ok.

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so more will see this info.

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Yeah, I competition hunt !! All Fall and Winter long.. My Blues compete with the local coon.. My Blues win a ton !!! We use and recommend MOONSHINER LIGHTS, Peggs , Ok.

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Excellent reminder Wayne.
This was touched on a long time ago in this post

http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthrea...threadid=407411

I never bothered to try because my Garmin has never failed but I gues the AOR needs to at least have the right frequencies in it if I had to use it.

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never saw that other thread of years gone by... Too bad that smart guy on there got banned !!!! LOL... I always knew it could be done. Now my son bought a Garmin so I just knew an emergency back up was a must. So why not share .... I have 2 r-10's maybe my extra one just got more valuable...

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never saw that other thread of years gone by... Too bad that smart guy on there got banned !!!! LOL... I always knew it could be done. Now my son bought a Garmin so I just knew an emergency back up was a must. So why not share .... I have 2 r-10's maybe my extra one just got more valuable...

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familiar with Viper either... But I'm an old cw guy and I never do that anymore, just ssb on 160 meters. No one around here using 2 meters much either... Internet is killing the ham radio hobby I think..

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Yeah, I competition hunt !! All Fall and Winter long.. My Blues compete with the local coon.. My Blues win a ton !!! We use and recommend MOONSHINER LIGHTS, Peggs , Ok.

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familiar with Viper either... But I'm an old cw guy and I never do that anymore, just ssb on 160 meters. No one around here using 2 meters much either... Internet is killing the ham radio hobby I think..

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Up so more will see this.

Guru my cw is REAL rusty. I should get back at it.

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Up so more will see this.

Guru my cw is REAL rusty. I should get back at it.

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you can't get on 160 with us. couple of coonhunters on 1.923 with me..

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so more will see this...

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Yeah, I competition hunt !! All Fall and Winter long.. My Blues compete with the local coon.. My Blues win a ton !!! We use and recommend MOONSHINER LIGHTS, Peggs , Ok.

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so more will see this...

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Yeah, I competition hunt !! All Fall and Winter long.. My Blues compete with the local coon.. My Blues win a ton !!! We use and recommend MOONSHINER LIGHTS, Peggs , Ok.

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to share this info....

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Yeah, I competition hunt !! All Fall and Winter long.. My Blues compete with the local coon.. My Blues win a ton !!! We use and recommend MOONSHINER LIGHTS, Peggs , Ok.

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an old thread but the info. may help those who have never seen it.

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Yeah, I competition hunt !! All Fall and Winter long.. My Blues compete with the local coon.. My Blues win a ton !!! We use and recommend MOONSHINER LIGHTS, Peggs , Ok.

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