Registered: Mar 2006
Location: London,Kentucky
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I got young dog just turned 2 and has had no issue treeing coon and normaly when parks you expect to see a coon. And bad thing is just other night treed 5-6 singles but last two nights has just looked plum stupid like he can't buy a coon. Also the trees he been making or just seems it to me they have vines in them. The dog is hunted hard i would say in last 30+ nights maybe off 5. But dog was very accurate to me to now looking like garbage.

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Hard to ask these questions without sounding disrespectful or negative. Sorry if they sound that way but this is what I would ask if we were talking and face to face so you could see my concern and wanting to help.

You have kept track of how many nights you have hunted and how many coon the dog has treed or not treed. Lets me ask if the dog has changed in any other way. Either around the house or while loading or unloading or just in his hunting style. Any other indication of perhaps a physical problem in the dogs actions, beside binging off with his hunting ability.

Sounds like a nice hound. Has a weather change taken place the last few nights. More rain than before or maybe an average of a few degrees hotter with no rain. You hunting the same locations.

If noting in the environment has changed and there has been no change in the dogs behavior or looks. For now you can probably only chalk it up to a couple of bad nights where the moon and the stars didn't line up. But if this is a start of some illness. Keep a close eye on any physical or mental change when not hunting. His eating habits also. Keep a close eye on his coat/hair for becoming dull or perhaps more corse. Best wishes on the dog coming back to performing for you.

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Registered: Feb 2012
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im also from seKY, and this may have nothing to do with it but i have noticed my deer cams reflecting that most coons in my area are stirring very late the last couple weeks. i guess due to the acorn mast coming in coons seem to be stirring very early in the morning, maybe he is having a hard time finding a decent track? Hope you get him figured out

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Was building fence yesterday and saw a mother coon And 3 kittens come down to the pond and get a drink it was 93 degrees at 6:00. Coons don’t stick to being nocturnal during tuff times they have to eat and drink. I have been waiting till about 11:00 at night to leave the house and been having more luck.


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Without knowing the whole story, or being able to pin down an external issue (weather etc...) I'd suggest putting him up for a week or two. May be as simple as needing a break. I've always felt like that works better than trying to push through an issue, seems like that can make it worse.

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Location: London,Kentucky
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Yeh the weather has changed been getting some rain and has cooled down quite a bit but I mean he has been hunted in about everything but just dont see it as a excuse dog has went from treeing 7-8 coon out of 10 to treeing like 5 blanks in a row.

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Maybe he is going through puberty and has something else on his mind.

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on these blank tree he has made is he working track or just falling treed?

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He never has been a trailing type he just falls treed on all his tracks.

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He’s young. Sometimes you have to let the dog tell you how they need to be hunted. If he’s been hunted that hard and was doing that good, it won’t hurt a thing to lay him up a week or two.
I don’t claim to know it all. Just speaking from personal experience on this one.

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Two is still pretty young, but a good bit of advice I got was this; When your dog looks great and amazing, conditions were just perfect. When your dog looks terrible, conditions were awful for that dog. Don't get frustrated- just know something changed in the scenting or opportunity that is not as ideal for that hound as it was.

Every hound has conditions that match up with their abilities, and one's that do not.

The few that can rise above any conditions are those once in a lifetime hounds I suspect.

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Gonna make a broad statement and not pointing fingers. Sometimes it's the dog and sometimes it's the man. One of the biggest problems I've seen is the coon squaller. I've watched a lot of men even after seeing the coon just keep trying to blow the reed out of the squaller. Just making a coon wilder and harder to tree. Then pull the dog off and send him on after all the coons in a mile radius have heard the squaller and headed for home or another zip code. Gets worse if hunting the same ground regular and even on buckets. If you can find the coon without the squaller just pat old Rover on the head and hunt on. Keeps your coon easy to tree.

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See this with high power tree dogs with the squirrels start cutting

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See this with high power tree dogs with the squirrels start cutting

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This could be the answer. Or the poodle next door might be in heat and his brain is scrambled.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by yadkintar
[B]Or it’s in his genetics and it’s just the way he is going to be no matter what you do.



Dog don't go from being accurate to just treeing slick out of the blue there is a reason but its not genetic

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Lol. Just consider the source of who posts what and let it go. Opinions are just that, nothing more or nothing less, most are worthless. Dogs are just dogs, for example, my hunting buddy and I are hunting a pretty decent young dog we recently purchased, he has been very accurate, but tonight he treed slick up a bunch of pawpaw trees. Why, no one knows, they just use their nose and brain, but like most folks, they make mistakes. Young dogs are usually very accurate, but can be ruined if handled improperly. Don't encourage your dog at any tree unless you see the coon. Dave

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by yadkintar
[B]Or it’s in his genetics and it’s just the way he is going to be no matter what you do.



Dog don't go from being accurate to just treeing slick out of the blue there is a reason but its not genetic

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So often it's a man made issue. If he was an accurate dog once then the odds are to take a hard look in the mirror. It could be a great deal of things from who your hunting him with to how your hunting style is. Sometimes to get change you have to ask yourself how important it is to you.
I have friends that always have accurate dogs and I have friends that never have accurate dogs.

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So often it's a man made issue. If he was an accurate dog once then the odds are to take a hard look in the mirror. It could be a great deal of things from who your hunting him with to how your hunting style is. Sometimes to get change you have to ask yourself how important it is to you.
I have friends that always have accurate dogs and I have friends that never have accurate dogs.

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I agree with this comment, I know plenty who have average dogs and a couple who always have a corndog. The handler plays a big big big role in the dogs performance. Dave

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Lol. Thank spell check and laziness on my part for the corndog, it should have been coon dog. Dave

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