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I would like to hear from some of the guys that are die hard in one registry or the other as to why they are. I have hunted some in every registry I know of from local level to world hunt final casts. I have seen sorry dogs and handlers and top notch dogs and handlers in of them. I promise one registry doesn't have better dogs or handlers then another, in fact most hunt several registries. Any world hunt with hundreds of entry's is hard to win, it takes dog power , luck and a few breaks.
Some of the worst cheating I've been around was in $$$ hunts. But I've seen score cards plain wrote up in ukc also.

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I dont like UKCs rules, and I dont like hunting for titles. Even though I know I am not making money in PKC, I like knowing that that it can be done.

In this area. The UKC hunts are not attended by the same people PKC hunts are, and the competition is not nearly as stiff when I did hunt a few.

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Joey maybe there is not enough time in between big hunts to get recognition it's like one is over and there is anouther next week and like now meltdown is the top dog and he is the only one they are talking about no matter who else wins the other hunts because he is close to being the all time money winner $$$ talks I guess.



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Joey maybe there is not enough time in between big hunts to get recognition it's like one is over and there is anouther next week and like now meltdown is the top dog and he is the only one they are talking about no matter who else wins the other hunts because he is close to being the all time money winner $$$ talks I guess.



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Josh, do you think its the chance at winning a larger amount of money? Or that there is more recognition from your peers if you can win a pro hunt or national title ect.....

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I understand what you are saying Josh. I just don't see the integrity in $$$ around my area that u see in yours. I'm not saying UKC is far better or anything, I just see a lot of BS in $$$. They walk to treed dogs that can't be heard, walk away from trailing dogs so you can't hear them get treed, won't see coons in trees and the famous deal with stretch and company was just up the road a hour from me. I just think any major event is hard to win under any set of rules.

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Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
I dont like UKCs rules, and I dont like hunting for titles. Even though I know I am not making money in PKC, I like knowing that that it can be done.

In this area. The UKC hunts are not attended by the same people PKC hunts are, and the competition is not nearly as stiff when I did hunt a few.

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He isn't close to being the all time money winner. He is the all time money winner by far. $187,503.42 and he has a little more that's not on there yet. Plus his winnings from other Kc's he is well over 200K.

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Sonny many of the Guys down here hunt in both registries. Due to the distances between the clubs here in FL the people have to be wiling to drive some to hunt. We had a little hunt here last Thursday that had six people attend. 3 were Local guys but the other three all drove over an hour to get here with two of them driving an hour and a half and they came from different directions. The discussion before the hunt was like most discussions of how the guys were doing. They each talked about different hunts they had been at and some were UKC and some were $KC discussions. Just guys sharing what they like to do and having fun at both places.

I seen the talk in this thread about recognition. I wish all coon hunters would realize that other coon hunters are just like themselves and they keep up with what is going on and who is winning and where. If people would not work at being recognized and just have fun by training and owning coon hounds. They would end up with a lot better reputation and this sports image would be more favorable.

Most of our Grand Fathers or Great Grand Fathers never cared or even thought about being recognized but they carried the axe with them because they knew their dogs would have a coon in the tree. Today, to many want recognition and are trying to get it with a dogs that have a lot of holes. That combination generally is the reason for problems in the hunts.

Talking about the problems in the hunts seem to be the buzz on a message board. I am Thankful that I haven't been around those types of hunts. Have there been a question or two over the years. YES Have I seen one person or another disappointed after a hunt, YES. Are they all back the next week, enjoying the sport. YES

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Good post Bruce, couldn't agree more.

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Sonny many of the Guys down here hunt in both registries. Due to the distances between the clubs here in FL the people have to be wiling to drive some to hunt. We had a little hunt here last Thursday that had six people attend. 3 were Local guys but the other three all drove over an hour to get here with two of them driving an hour and a half and they came from different directions. The discussion before the hunt was like most discussions of how the guys were doing. They each talked about different hunts they had been at and some were UKC and some were $KC discussions. Just guys sharing what they like to do and having fun at both places.

I seen the talk in this thread about recognition. I wish all coon hunters would realize that other coon hunters are just like themselves and they keep up with what is going on and who is winning and where. If people would not work at being recognized and just have fun by training and owning coon hounds. They would end up with a lot better reputation and this sports image would be more favorable.

Most of our Grand Fathers or Great Grand Fathers never cared or even thought about being recognized but they carried the axe with them because they knew their dogs would have a coon in the tree. Today, to many want recognition and are trying to get it with a dogs that have a lot of holes. That combination generally is the reason for problems in the hunts.

Talking about the problems in the hunts seem to be the buzz on a message board. I am Thankful that I haven't been around those types of hunts. Have there been a question or two over the years. YES Have I seen one person or another disappointed after a hunt, YES. Are they all back the next week, enjoying the sport. YES

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Said we are a bunch of fake news one of the been hunting in $$$ hunts 35 yrs and got $900 won. Oh and Jim started it lol.
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Oh my goodness Tarbaby, it has been more than a week now. Is that guy still making fun of you on the $$$ board? Or have you set him straight?

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I have a question,does a dog still get credit towards a title in $$$ for winning a cast with least amount of minus?

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I have a question,does a dog still get credit towards a title in $$$ for winning a cast with least amount of minus?

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My reason for hunting pkc is simple..theres always a winner..i live in low coon population and many years ago i won 9 straight ntch cast in january and Feb , as the ONLY ntch cast at each hunt but only den trees and no coons scored..my money and long nights were for nothing. Why does my dog not deserve a win doing their jobs. So yes, around here cheating is way worse at ukc hunt knowing u must "see" a coon. Same reason i dont like hockey.. there should ALWAYS be a winner! Secondly, u have no control over where u are guided vs the the other cast going to coon zoo. Ive came in with scores confident in my area knowing i shld win a 1st to find out another cast makes 2 min drops 50 yrds from a feeder buckets all night.. Thats not coon huntn in the least bit. In pkc i only worry about the dogs ive drawn. I also like progressive countdown on tree and frankly its just getn tough to put 4 wild huntn dogs in an area big enuf to hold them for 2 hrs..fat and lazy and really like the hr hunts these days!

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Been reading through this thread and am wondering how many of you pleasure hunt the same dogs you campaign? Just curious.

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It all comes down to....EXCUSE'S.....!!!
There should only be a Winner if Coon are Scored On.....Period...!!!

To me, there is way more Cheating going on knowing if you are in the Minus but you know you can Win with Minus.....LOL
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Why do you guys not type pkc, instead of the pk$, etc. ? Is it being polite to ukc? Just always curious, I think ukc can handle you typing pkc, competition is good in the business world.

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I am no expert by any means on the difference between $kc and ukc, but in my limited exposure to $kc the handlers knew the rules, took their minus like a man and the judge was the judge. In most of the ukc cast I have been in I see just the opposite, lots of circle trees, people interpreting the rules as they see fit and a lot of bickering.... to the point it is just more fun to just stay home and hunt around the house.

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Why do you guys not type pkc, instead of the pk$, etc. ? Is it being polite to ukc? Just always curious, I think ukc can handle you typing pkc, competition is good in the business world.

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So I am either confused or curious about what some are saying and i could very well be wrong and if I am TAR will set me straight
. is competition coon hunting now a redneck version of amway?

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Chuck this ain't no excuse but I am to tired to think right now we had a bennifit for a freind that has stage 4 yesterday we fried 200 pounds of fish plus hush puppies and fries and we ran out of food my wife gave a jar of plumb jelly and one of salsa they brought $45 each cakes brought $200 I bought a boat now I got two lol. stood by those cookers for 6 hours in 110 degree heat 10 glasses of ice water 10 glasses of tea finally I drank two adult beverages I don't drink but it hit the spot went back today and cleaned up why does Sombody have to get sick for people to do that.


This new generation of coonhunters are lazy that's the problem !!



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Chuck this ain't no excuse but I am to tired to think right now we had a bennifit for a freind that has stage 4 yesterday we fried 200 pounds of fish plus hush puppies and fries and we ran out of food my wife gave a jar of plumb jelly and one of salsa they brought $45 each cakes brought $200 I bought a boat now I got two lol. stood by those cookers for 6 hours in 110 degree heat 10 glasses of ice water 10 glasses of tea finally I drank two adult beverages I don't drink but it hit the spot went back today and cleaned up why does Sombody have to get sick for people to do that.


This new generation of coonhunters are lazy that's the problem !!



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DANG TAR PRAYERS FOR YOUR FRIEND AND MAYBE WE ALL NEED TO PAY IT FORWARD IN ALL THINGS THAT WE DO. DO UNTO OTHERS ETC.

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DANG TAR PRAYERS FOR YOUR FRIEND AND MAYBE WE ALL NEED TO FOLLOW THE KIND OF EXAMPLE YOU SET THIS WEEKEND, PAY IT FORWARD IN ALL THINGS THAT WE DO. DO UNTO OTHERS ETC.

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