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No attacking going on from me, that’s why there was a laughing face Dave. There was no need for me to add anything. As usual, you gave plenty of advice. Although, I have been wrongly written up for trespassing, but not in OH. My situation was many years ago. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings Dave. I was simply joking. I’ll leave this thread as a “safe space”. 😉

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My advice would be, start saving your pennies. I'm in Ohio and have owned or operated a butcher shop for 31 years. And have worked at another deer shop part time for 20 years. I've seen several deer get confiscated for this very reason. I've never seen anyone get the deer back, every one of them lost there license and most had to pay trophy costs.

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No attacking going on from me, that’s why there was a laughing face Dave. There was no need for me to add anything. As usual, you gave plenty of advice. Although, I have been wrongly written up for trespassing, but not in OH. My situation was many years ago. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings Dave. I was simply joking. I’ll leave this thread as a “safe space”. 😉

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I was in a cast at Butler county, Ohio Coonhunter’s club. Dean Grubb was the guide , 1990/91 . The entire cast was arrested and charged with criminal trespass. I was arrested (not booked, not charged because I was a minor ) and was released with Dean Grubb , with my grand parent’s permission. Dean was the only guy that could post his bond! Guide knew he wasn’t allowed to be there , we did not ! I don’t know what they pled guilty to, but they paid fines.

Land in Ohio doesn’t have to be posted, everybody has said I thought so and so owns it, land owners try to run you off state ground here, because they own two acres beside the state ground. People shoot other people , cleaning their guns or didn’t know it was loaded, still get charged .

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I was in a cast at Butler county, Ohio Coonhunter’s club. Dean Grubb was the guide , 1990/91 . The entire cast was arrested and charged with criminal trespass. I was arrested (not booked, not charged because I was a minor ) and was released with Dean Grubb , with my grand parent’s permission. Dean was the only guy that could post his bond! Guide knew he wasn’t allowed to be there , we did not ! I don’t know what they pled guilty to, but they paid fines.

Land in Ohio doesn’t have to be posted, everybody has said I thought so and so owns it, land owners try to run you off state ground here, because they own two acres beside the state ground. People shoot other people , cleaning their guns or didn’t know it was loaded, still get charged .

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All I’m saying is , “not knowing “ doesn’t release anyone from responsibility. Good luck !

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All I’m saying is , “not knowing “ doesn’t release anyone from responsibility. Good luck !

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Ok, I’ll say it this way , someone “saying” they didn’t know is not a viable defense . It’s used in most offenses.

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Ok, I’ll say it this way , someone “saying” they didn’t know is not a viable defense . It’s used in most offenses.

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Scott, do you know what due process means? In short at this point Trevor has not been charged with trespassing and even if he gets charged, he will have his day in court. Everyone is entitled to due process and are considered innocent until proven guilty. In the absence of defined property lines proving he knowingly trespasses will be very difficult. I wish Trevor the best. Dave

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Absolutely do Dave, I’m not accusing of anything , said it numerous times that I’m rooting for him, he posted the law , all I’m saying is not knowing is not going to work! You should know that Dave.

You’re wrong on the property lines , they are readily available on Huntstand app, Huntstand Garmin maps , County website , maybe lost in the woods you end up lost or running from an attacker , get some place you shouldn’t be . However in this situation , wildlife officer are saying it was on other peoples land, that’s their position . But , under this situation the responsibility lies with the hunter to know the land boundaries , even in his initial post , he stated his family owned couple hundred acres in that block. So , he has knowledge of the area! Last thing if the deer was on other place , it’s an uphill battle , the drone is gonna be the problem. If that operator went with him, he’s just as culpable . When someone posts something for debate, should be ready for honest opinion, why lie about it , that’s not doing anybody any good. For the last time I hope it works out for Trevor.

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Few years ago buddy of mine coon hunted land with written permission, before all the GPS, not knowing the dogs crossed property line only by a few yards. He was found guilty of trespassing, there was no posted signs or visible fence. The game warden said he saw boot marks on property, no snow, frost must been a tracker from way back

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Ask Donald J. Trump about due process, the courts are a joke

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Few years ago buddy of mine coon hunted land with written permission, before all the GPS, not knowing the dogs crossed property line only by a few yards. He was found guilty of trespassing, there was no posted signs or visible fence. The game warden said he saw boot marks on property, no snow, frost must been a tracker from way back

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What ever happened, did you get the deer back?

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