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Should there be a world champion re-hunt You do not have permission to vote on this poll.
1-NO	121	53.30%
2-YES with the 11 dogs ukc picked	70	30.84%
3-Yes with all the dogs from the zones	32	14.10%
4	4	1.76%
Total:	227 votes	100%

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jdgher
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Richard

Richard I agree.

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yadkintar
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Back in the day when you had one guy trying the Hankey panky you had three guys stopping him now days you got 4 guys trying to out hanky panky the others the best hanky pankier wins just sayen !

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shadinc
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You live in a country where almost half of the people think it's alright to be here illegally and you're surprised that some think it's OK to cheat on a coon hunt?

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Dale Yates
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So, I have read that Mr. Rhodes has been barred from UKC. Is this true? If so, why was Mr. Storie not barred? He was just as guilty for not making sure HE turned the scorecard in, with the correct score. Did not follow the rules of a Judge. He got scared and went home, instead performing the duty entrusted in him.

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ov_blues
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Registered: Feb 2007
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I don't think it is fair to cheat and I have no problem with the win getting thrown out, as it should be. What I don't like is if it affects other people's placements by going back and hunting under different circumstances and conditions. Maybe it won't matter to some people if they end up placing 4th or 8th when it's all said and done, or not being the high scoring dog of a breed, but some of that is going to happen so what was done by Sambos handler is going to affect more people and dogs than just the people who he beat heads up in casts at the finals. That is the only reason that I have agreed
with stripping sambo of the title and not declaring an overall winner this year, definitely not that I condone cheating to win.

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nitehunter2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Dale Yates
So, I have read that Mr. Rhodes has been barred from UKC. Is this true? If so, why was Mr. Storie not barred? He was just as guilty for not making sure HE turned the scorecard in, with the correct score. Did not follow the rules of a Judge. He got scared and went home, instead performing the duty entrusted in him.

Why don�t you call and ask Him.

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Originally posted by cranberry
I don't worry much about my character getting run down, it hurts a little but the guys who know me and have hunted with me before will tell you I've never cheated or help someone cheat.

There have been some huge misunderstandings that I hope to get the opportunity to resolve. However it's probably too late. I don't get on here as much as I probably should have during this, and havnt kept up to speed with what was going on. I didn't realize this stuff was still an issue until Saturday morning.

I'm not going to share a bunch of details on here because I would never damage someone's character publicly without talking to them first.

My phone number is at the bottom of my signature on here. Always has been!

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ridgerunner1
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Registered: Feb 2015
Location: VA
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Do you even read your own posts? How could you admit that he cheated and than 2 lines later say that he won "fair and square"? Do you really think that it is all right or "fair" to cheat. All of the people that are posting that Sambo is the real winner or that they should not have a rehunt are actually saying that it is all right to cheat. I can't believe that so many people are saying that since "everyone is doing it" , it is ok to cheat. Or that if you win by cheating but don't get caught that night, then it is all right. 56% of the people voting in this poll think that it is all right to cheat.

What I meant is he cheated at he zones right?He didn't cheat at the world right??? He won at the world fair and square is what I meant no matter how he got here he beat them all fair that night right??? sorry I do not sit on here all day and my typing ain't great! I do not even no much about it mabye Inmisunderstood the whole thing from git go who nos...do not no the sam dog or the owner just I don't think rehunt is best option..none my business never have worry about me being there anyway...going huntin tho

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Richard Lambert
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Originally posted by ridgerunner1
What I meant is he cheated at he zones right?He didn't cheat at the world right??? He won at the world fair and square is what I meant no matter how he got here....

"No matter how he got there"? Oh my goodness, really? I am sure glad that UKC thinks it matters how he got there. And the sad thing is you are not the only person that thinks like this. According to the poll 50% of the coonhunters don't think that it matters that his handler cheated.