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I have never noticed a breakdown in my dogs.
Thanks.

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Corn causes kidney failure? Well I'll be darned! And here I was thinking it was the overdosing with ivomec!

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Sorry..but I make a living studying animal nutrition. Corn is USELESS for a dog.

Their digestive system isn't made to digest a corn based diet. it stresses their kidneys and digestive system and is the culprit behind many of the kidney related deaths of dogs.

Corn is only 6-8 % protein at best. To get their junk feed to 20+% protein, they have to add "by products" such as chicken feathers, hair, hooves, etc. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to understand that eating hooves, feathers and hair isn't natural and by the time the dogs kidneys get done breaking down that feed, they are only getting 8-10% protein at best.

People hate to hear the truth and accept the fact that if they are feeding a junk feed that is hurting their dog and possibly shortening their life.

Common sense says a diet based on meat and real , digestible protein is more natural and healthier for a dog than a diet based on corn, feathers, hair, etc.

If folks can understand that, how do they make it thru everyday life?? It isn't rocket science. It is common sense.

Feed corn to chickens, hogs and cows. Feed MEAT and REAL PROTEIN to dogs.

God made them that way for a reason.

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...but they love Corn bread!

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I have seen Purina Hi Pro mentioned several times in the dog food threads here and some saying Purina ONE was comparable to the old Hi Pro. Thought some of you might like to see the ingredients lists of the two for comparison.

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I have fed a number of dog foods over the years and have kept a label from most of them so that I could see their content and compare them. I have always had an interest in dog foods and have picked the ones I thought were the best choice for my situation and my dogs.

Dog foods come and go over time I have noticed. Extreme Athlete seems to be the one some are doting over at this time. Next year there will be another one I suspect.

I would suggest that anyone choose a food of the better quality and go with it and forget the hype. You simply cannot expect to feed a dog food that costs 85 cents a pound and think you will save enough by feeding it to make up the difference between it and a good one that is half the price.

No one is saying how much a cup of their dog food weighs and how much the dog weighs and how much food they are actually consuming of each food. This is the way to calculate the cost of feeding dogs.

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NEVER SEEN A K9 EAT CORN!!!!!!!! YOU HAVE NO SWEET CORN AROUND!!!!!!NO FIELD CORN!!!
Dear friend, I invite you over this summer. We can talk dogs and dog food. We will watch the dogs tear ears of corn off to feed on. We will at times catch a coyote do the same.

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NEVER SEEN A K9 EAT CORN!!!!!!!! YOU HAVE NO SWEET CORN AROUND!!!!!!NO FIELD CORN!!!
Dear friend, I invite you over this summer. We can talk dogs and dog food. We will watch the dogs tear ears of corn off to feed on. We will at times catch a coyote do the same.

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Back original topic.

Looks like the Costco Kirkland Chicken, Rice, and Vegitables dog food is the same as the Diamond Naturals Chicken and Rice.

It might be cheaper at Costco.

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...but they love Corn bread!

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right now I am feeding sportmix but am switching over to EA my one dog is 85ibs and I feed him 32 oz's a day and is well maintained my other is 90ibs and I feed him 34 oz's. Once I get complety switched over to EA I will be able to see the tru difference of feed amount diff. Thanks to the guys the showed me the away from corn. I did notice EA has barley in it what does that do. just curious.

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I tried ONE back early to mid 90's and didn't care for it at all. That Kirkland looks decent as does the Native. I feed EA and while there are things that I don't like about it, I can supplement it much easier to hit the total grams of protein that I want. I don't care for the brewers rice at all and I think the protein sources in the EA need supplementing as well. The best thing about EA, in my mind, is the fat source and the lack of grain/filler (besides the brewers rice). When I supplement, a bag of EA can last a very long time, almost to the point of it going bad or stale. I supplement with a little cooked rice for the carbs and some meat protein once in awhile if I hammer them hard one night.

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where can can you get that kirkland at, price,, on it and what is the fat to protein on it.

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i feed the diamond maintenance feed for 20.00 for a 40 lbs bag its great feed

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where can can you get that kirkland at, price,, on it and what is the fat to protein on it.

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Why can people not understand dog,s are carnivores (meateaers) and as actual weight per cup the feed I use weighs 4 oz per cup and I feed depends on the dog anywhere between a cup and a half too three cup

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I wouldn't feed Diamond to a dog I hated. After losing the best hound I've ever followed to a bad batch of Diamond, I'll never give them another penny.

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what diamond was it that you lost your dog too

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It was the Diamond Premium 26-18. This was about 4 or 5 years ago, they had a big recall. The recall came about a week too late.

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I belkeve tht recall was about some moldy corn anotheer reason not too feed corn based feed

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NEVER SEEN A K9 EAT CORN!!!!!!!! YOU HAVE NO SWEET CORN AROUND!!!!!!NO FIELD CORN!!!
Dear friend, I invite you over this summer. We can talk dogs and dog food. We will watch the dogs tear ears of corn off to feed on. We will at times catch a coyote do the same.

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You simply cannot expect to feed a dog food that costs 85 cents a pound and think you will save enough by feeding it to make up the difference between it and a good one that is half the price.

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I wouldn't feed Diamond to a dog I hated. After losing the best hound I've ever followed to a bad batch of Diamond, I'll never give them another penny.

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right now I am feeding sportmix but am switching over to EA my one dog is 85ibs and I feed him 32 oz's a day and is well maintained my other is 90ibs and I feed him 34 oz's. Once I get complety switched over to EA I will be able to see the tru difference of feed amount diff. Thanks to the guys the showed me the away from corn. I did notice EA has barley in it what does that do. just curious.

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You know folks..I make a living trying to get the most from feed to raise animals the most cost efficient and healthy way you can. I have helped formulate feed programs that can grow a 5.75 lb chicken in 43 days or a 300 lb. hog at 7 months old. I know a little about basic animal digestion and absorption capabilities.

Dont be fooled by these people who claim Corn is a healthy base for a dog feed. They are lying thru their teeth..Whether thru ignorance or willful deception.... They are lying all the same.

It is a shame that people will deny facts and argue for the sake of arguing and trying to disprove sound science and common sense.
It makes me wonder what kind of people they are when they think no one is watching.

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