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Many of us cast our hounds in numerous places to hunt. Do you think they remember the places they've been hunted in and where to go to look for game in those places?

What are the things you've seen that indicate your hounds know where to go other than just the scent of the game there after? Especially in unfamiliar territory.

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I sure do. What I have seen is a dog hunted in the same area but not turned loose from the same spot. Know the best spot in the area to find a coon and know how to get there.

These dogs learn the woods better than we do and a lot faster.


I have seen pups worked on cage coon. Remember the spot the coon was kept in and check that spot every time they were loose to play. Long after the coon is gone.

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I got a little squirrel dog, several places I take him have wire fences though out the woods and places he can get through easy. And he remembers them all from year to year. He see me cross and bam he hauls to his crossing doesn't matter how far away his crossing is. I know a little off topic but it's a pleasure to watch

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They sure do! I got a lil gyp that we take to a spot when we need to get one up quick she always knows were to go and gets there quick usually shuts them out on this drop.

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Coons remember where the feeder buckets are and so do the dogs!

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Sometimes I don’t think mine can remember our training from the night before much less the woods he was in..... 😂

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Yes in my experience the dogs do learn after a few times cut loose in the same spot where to go to get struck. But also why does it seem some dogs just know where to go no matter where they're cut loose compared to others? I call this coon sense not sure what other guys call it.

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X2 on coon sense

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It all depends on how smart the dog is, just like people some are smarter than others. The really smart dogs have really good recall. Once they learn something it sticks with them, while others seem to forget real quick. Notice how many folks that have had an exceptional dog say brains is the key. Nothing replaces brains when it comes to ability in dogs or humans. Dave

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Dave Richards You are so very right. Many Years ago I had an exceptionally smart, coon treeing hound.

I took this dog to our local club for a Field trial type event. Showed him the coon in the cage, the kids dragged the coon up the hollow, crossed the other side, went down the hollow and came out in a small bottom just below the coon club and put the coon up the tree. We cut them loose and my pride winning coon hound went right up the hollow with the rest of the pack, and ended up with 2nd line and 2nd tree.

30 days later I brought him back to the very same club, entered him in the same event, showed him the coon, and drug the coon away, and brought the track right back to that same tree, we had used the month before. The difference was that when I cut him loose, all the other dogs went north, following the scent that had been laid, My dog went immediately south, and ran as fast as he could straight back to the tree we had put the coon up the month before. Guess what, That rascal had first line and first tree, before the other dogs had even gotten the track up to where it first crossed the hollow. So yes I would say he remembered that drill and he passed in flying colors LOL.

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I just lost a 13 1/2 year old dog that seemed to remember every tree he'd ever found a coon in. He wasn't a great coon dog--some spots we'd been to a lot he'd check half a dozen trees he'd known to have coons in them before he'd bother to put his nose to the ground and work to trail one that had been by recently.
The hound I am hunting now has coon sense. You drop him someplace new and he'll head for the river bottom or the corn field or some other likely spot. Sometimes I wish he didn't. Where I live, there's houses along the river bottom, but there's still plenty of coon on the feeder streams on the NYC watershed land running up the mountain behind my house. I'll turn him out after walking uphill on public land, and he'll run back down where the houses are unless he crosses a fresh coon track on the way.

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Dogs remember if you are good to,them or not they don’t forget you they recognize you by scent if they forget your face. Sold one years ago and bought him back he remembered which stall in the kennel was his and where I kept the doggie treats in the feed building. And he was a coon dog bar none.

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My pups remember where they can cross through a hog wire fence after their first trip even at just a few weeks old. The older dogs know where they need to go to most likely strike a coon after hunting a spot one time. Usually the way you don't want them to go lol. Coon sense in unfamiliar places - I've wondered if smart dogs associate the smell water even small bodies of it from far distances and maybe even other food sources from long distances as places they will be more likely to strike a coon track. I also wonder if this instinct and ability is why dogs that have maybe not had to fully develope it coming from higher coon populations struggle when first hunted in larger timber without something to guide them aka a fence row, cornfield edge small patch ect. In these and some other parts dogs have to know how to go find a coon being hunted in sections of usually at least 1 mile x 1 mile of nothing but woods. I'm not suggesting that all dogs from these areas are all great at this "coon sense" or all those hunted in higher population of coons all struggle. I will say that the transition is not always easy but the one adapts easier per the terrain vs the other and it could be the learning factor of from a young age of having to know how to go find a coon for reward. Just like a dog never hunted on crops takes time to learn how to get one out or hunt the edges or a dog never hunted on water may have difficulty working it, dogs with this "sense" adapt rather quickly.
Dogs memory - at 2 years old Dalton was attacked by a momma dog. Because she was running on instinct of protecting her pups from a toddler and had never been aggressive before, even towards the kids, we gave her and her pups away so she could raise them (today I would probably make a different decision). Years later, while at a local trade day a female dog started barking and lunging at Dalton as we walked by. He remembered her and she definitely remembered him, it was Dawn the female that left him with scars from stitches on both his legs. Cowboy boots had protected him from everything but puncture wounds. The owner had never before seen her act that way to anyone, man or child. If she had been close enough she would have got him again. Dogs are much smarter than most give them credit for.

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I would agree with the majority of the replies. A hound that has a ton on of hunt and desire to go along with the intelligence can at times almost seem to create the game it's after when the average hound is cast and comes up with nothing. This type of hound, in my book, is not the average from my experience. This talent coupled with all the other necessary tools to make a good coon hound can become a once in a lifetime hound for many of us.

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I had a young male dog that was jumped on and ate up by 2 blueticks in his first hunt. He always hated blueticks from then on. He didn't have any problem with other breeds but would fight with a bluetick at the first sign of aggresion.

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I laid a track for a young dog in a dog park! It was about 10 degrees outside, and I knew no one else would be out there.
He tracked it to one of the big trees inside of the park, and blew it down. Exactly what you want them to do. Over a year later, I took him back down there just to get him out of the house, after a half hour or so of smelling everything inside that place, he made his way back over to that tree, and rolled up treed, like he saw it climb!

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This is one of the most important ?'s that I have ever seen asked because memory is equal to intelligence when it comes to Dogs.

When it comes to Coon Hounds Memory, It's literally like living in the Twilight Zone !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This IS what I discovered, this is what I share with my Fellow Houndsman, All lines of Coonhound Have More mental Memory than all other breeds of Dog I have ever trained!!!

Our Hounds are so smart and have so much Memory they have fooled the world, for real, for real!!!

We hear it every night, men will say "I think that Hounds too smart for his own good" / "He's too smart for the Handler" / "She knows How to get out of doing whatever she doesn't want to do".

most every Coon hunter has said some form of these words himself, for years now and these statements refer to Mental Memory!

The Bullheaded ness that Coonhounds posses is Mental memory! All other breeds must be trained by repetition over an over and Over, setting commands into Muscle Memory. However, as soon as we train through their stubbornness, Taping into their want to please, A whole nother Dog training world shows itself, Called SPEED TRAINING !!!

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Most all breeds take 2 weeks to learn my obedience foundation. Sit, Lay, Sit Up, Stand Up, Stay, Come, Come Stop, Right side, Left Side, Heal (on and off lead), Load and unload and they will perform them with a verbal command or a hand signal.

Yet I can train the average Coon Hound to perform these exact same things only Better in a matter of an hour or two in most cases! This is tremendous Mental Memory because I do not have to do countless repetitions !!!
Only Coonhounds Hold the Speed Training records here!
I have Trained Many Coon Hounds of all breeds my entire obedience foundation in under 30 minutes. This would be impossible without High-level Mental Memory and what I do would be Impossible if Coonhounds wouldn't have taught me.

When it comes to breeding Coon hunters breed the best to the best because each breeder has to live with the result. Then we follow our offspring reports through nightly Tree Talk, creating a spiderweb connection of Breeding knowledge that does not exist anywhere else in the Dog world that I have found. The communication we share on the progress of our pups and breeding them has Pushed Coonhounds into another Level of Intelligence entirely.

When I broke through my Hounds bullheadedness with his Want to Please (not discipline), I entered the Twilight Zone of K-9 memory!!!

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