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Team Mafia 2
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I will be honest with you though Iíve Hunted at every level and have been lucky enough to have a little bit of success and I can honestly say that these hot nosed ambush type dogs are truly the minority. Some good friends of mine learned that the hard way at the world hunt. They learned that those dead loners could tree them like squirrels all around them if they needed to.
Sometimes I wonder what you guys are talking about when you talk about good track dogs. I think of one that every track it strikes is ran like itís running junk even on those cold frosty nights. I wouldnít own one that consistently spent an hour or more trailing or even 30 minutes for that matter. If they are consistently spending that much time on the ground they arenít good cold nose track dogs they are just to ignorant to get it up and drive it.

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Re: Real coon dog

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Just for the record, every dog that I have ever seen, owned or hunted with that I called a top coon dog or "real" coon dog was just as good at competition hunting as they were pleasure hunting. I have seen lots of dogs that were either goid competition dogs or pleasure hunting dogs, but not both. A real coon dog is both, makes NO difference to them whether it's competition or pleasure hunting, they perform at a higher level at all times. Dalton, your post was spot on, makes NO difference what the other dogs do to a real coon dog. Dave


That is the truth...great dogs should be great competition dogs and great pleasure hounds...and great dogs donít have bad hunts...

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A lot of dogs can tree a coon but just because a dog consistently trees coons doesnít make it in any way shape or form a coon dog. Iíve hunted with literally hundreds of dogs that consistently treed coons that were common as green grass in the summertime. A coon dog can be cut loose with 10 dogs 5 strike a deer and run it through the country and the other 5 tree every possum in the woods and Mr coon dog will be sunk through the country with a ricky above him. They have to be 100% indifferent to all of the nonsense thatís going on around them. Everyone claims to have a coon dog but they would quickly learn different under the circumstances Iíve listed above. Also a coon dog will NEVER have a bad night. They may have a bad drop but never a bad night. Even on there bad drops you can still see the superiority to the dogs around them.


I agree with your logic...but just because a dog treed possums or ran deer does not make him a no count dog...
Once this dog is made into a straight coon dog it might be the best coondog you ever saw...I say look for potential as well...

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X2 what Dalton said

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A lot of dogs can tree a coon but just because a dog consistently trees coons doesnít make it in any way shape or form a coon dog. Iíve hunted with literally hundreds of dogs that consistently treed coons that were common as green grass in the summertime. A coon dog can be cut loose with 10 dogs 5 strike a deer and run it through the country and the other 5 tree every possum in the woods and Mr coon dog will be sunk through the country with a ricky above him. They have to be 100% indifferent to all of the nonsense thatís going on around them. Everyone claims to have a coon dog but they would quickly learn different under the circumstances Iíve listed above. Also a coon dog will NEVER have a bad night. They may have a bad drop but never a bad night. Even on there bad drops you can still see the superiority to the dogs around them.


Dalton what you posted reminded me of something. I had a B&T dog that just didn't have much hunt. Could tree a coon and look good but just didn't hunt much. But I had a young dog that would run a deer and that B&T would follow along about way behind and tree several coon while the young dog ran a deer. Best thing that could happen to that B&T was to have something run a deer. But he sure wasn't a coon dog. The kind you are talking about are few and far between per my experience.

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When it gets to where 2 or 3 of the dogs in a cast tree coons all by themselves, then you have to have a dog that also gets first strike every time and doesnt fool with a den tree. Is that a coon dog?

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What do you mean doesn't fool with a den tree?

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