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I was on a three dog cast. Not going to say people's or dogs name. Dog a struck 100, treed for 125. Dog b struck for 75, treed for 75. On the same tree. Dog c struck for 50, the three is up on a&b. Then dog c is declared treed split for 125. We are now 50 yards away dog b is now with dog c. We all agree he left and minus him. OK now at the tree of dog a and they are 10 yards apart. OK we start to shine dog a and see that the tree top is broke out and laying into dog c tree. Dog b was not treed back in. Now we all agreen that it is one tree. So is dog b still minus . Handler ? It panel ruled he was because we all voted minus. Before we got there ..

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When tree was determined to be 1 dog B shouldn't have been minused you can change your vote and dog c if tree was dead before it came in how it would have been scored would be determined by what was in it but it would not have received any plus points if the 3 minutes was up.

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When tree was determined to be 1 dog B shouldn't have been minused you can change your vote and dog c if tree was dead before it came in how it would have been scored would be determined by what was in it but it would not have received any plus points if the 3 minutes was up.

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Since C was treed on a closed tree, wouldn't he get minused 125? What a mess that was.

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My question is , How could you minus a dog for leaving a tree if the trees were that close enough to be considered one tree? Were you close enough to see the trees and see the dog move? I do not believe you could tell simply by the sound alone, 10 yards, come on and yes you could correct the scorecard after the fact of it being scored as one tree. Dave

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Since C was treed on a closed tree, wouldn't he get minused 125? What a mess that was.

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My question is , How could you minus a dog for leaving a tree if the trees were that close enough to be considered one tree? Were you close enough to see the trees and see the dog move? I do not believe you could tell simply by the sound alone, 10 yards, come on and yes you could correct the scorecard after the fact of it being scored as one tree. Dave

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You are correct as usual, but my question was on minusing the dog for moving trees, NO WAY they could tell on trees 10 yards apart without seeing the dog move. I realize dog C would have been treed on separate tree if first tree was closed, it was stated that Dog B moved to Dog C's tree and was minused before they got to either tree and upon arriving that the trees were touching and scored as one tree. Dave

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Handler was just taking a chance his dog would be split because he declared him treed after time was up.

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When you know that your dog absolutely refuses to tree with another dog or back another dog that beats him on a tree, then you tree your dog separate when he trees. This time it backfired and the dog gets minused 125. Tough break.

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As a judge I would have informed the handler of dog c that he shouldn't tree his dog in when I couldn't tell there was an obvious split before accepting the call. With that said in this case it would have worked in his favor until everyone decided to score it as 1 tree. If the tree was circle it sounds like dog a 225 circle dog b 75 circle with a line threw his strike and c -125

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Originally posted by Showman
Handler ? It panel ruled he was because we all voted minus. Before we got there ..

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Back to the original question, did the panel say that the cast could not change their ruling and fix their mistake when they realized that it was all one tree? Apparantly they let the cast change their mind and rule it as all one tree and dog C was not split.
The cast ruled it as two trees on the way to the trees and then changed their mind and ruled it as all one tree when they got there.

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Dog A 225 pending, dog B 75- with 75 pending the scoring of the tree, and dog C 125- with 50 strike pending on the scoring if the tree.

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