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My dog is staying right or wrong
I had someone tell me this recently and I haven't heard it lately but it got me thinking?
Nobody likes to see a dog leave a tree. On the other hand nobody likes a slick treeing dog. Now don't get me wrong every dog slick trees some but there is some that also make a habit of slick treeing.
Anyway the what got my mind churning was this saying was very popular about the time slick treeing became a bigger issue. Now back in the day when people trained there pups there was a lot of people wanted them to do just that stay right or wrong tie them to the tree never correct them if they missed the coon.
What is everyone elses thoughts?

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Stay treed right or wrong if a dog doesn't want to stay treed or act like it's got a coon it shouldn't be treed everyone wants an accurate treedog dogs that do alot of locating ,tapping a bunch of trees are common, worthless to me I realize some condition's cause dogs to due this but not very often

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First half is correct, second half is dumb.

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ACCEPANCE {PERSONS ASSENT TO THE REALITY OF A SITUATION } , IT IS MY OPPION THAT SLICK TREEING IS A PRODUCT OF BREEDING PRACTICES AND NO AMOUNT OF CORRECTION IN THE TRAINING PROCCES CAN CORRECT A DOG THAT HAS THE FAULT OF SLICK TREEING ,

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Follow the track to end then tree.

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Originally posted by Richard Edinger
First half is correct, second half is dumb.

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Originally posted by thomasg
ACCEPANCE {PERSONS ASSENT TO THE REALITY OF A SITUATION } , IT IS MY OPPION THAT SLICK TREEING IS A PRODUCT OF BREEDING PRACTICES AND NO AMOUNT OF CORRECTION IN THE TRAINING PROCCES CAN CORRECT A DOG THAT HAS THE FAULT OF SLICK TREEING ,

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Originally posted by pamjohnson
how so? I can only guess what your thinking

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Originally posted by Richard Edinger
A slick treeing dog is not smart enough to know or care of he is wrong. A smart dog will realize his mistake and correct it himself therefore learning to make fewer mistakes

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In the past, a comp dog that treed and then checked was a problem. A comp dog needed to check and then tree. Once they treed they had to stay. They couldn't tree for a minute or two and then decide to go on.
Would you rather have a comp dog that you could tree on a locate or one that you had to wait until it "settled in" before you could tree it?
This is one of the reasons behind the super independent dogs of today. In the past when dogs packed, you needed a dog that you could tree on a locate. Today it doesn't matter. If they are always by themselves, you can wait to see if they are going to stay or not. "Right or wrong, my dog had better stay" has been replaced by "my dog had better be by himself".

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
[B If they are always by themselves, you can wait to see if they are going to stay or not. "Right or wrong, my dog had better stay" has been replaced by "my dog had better be by himself". [/B]

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I love to hear her locate awwwwwwwww, aawwwwwwww, then i look at Garmin and see her check, check, check, and when she goes back awwwwww, awwwww, aw,aw,aw,aw,aw! Dead Coon boys! But thats just me and what suits me. You have to find what suits YOU! I am not trying to beat anyone to the tree. I want the coon in the tree. Number 1 thing....should be treeing the coon not making sure there is enough leaves on the tree to hide a lying hound...he cannot live at my house...not long anyway! and she doesn't leave either....

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ACCEPANCE {PERSONS ASSENT TO THE REALITY OF A SITUATION } , IT IS MY OPPION THAT SLICK TREEING IS A PRODUCT OF BREEDING PRACTICES AND NO AMOUNT OF CORRECTION IN THE TRAINING PROCCES CAN CORRECT A DOG THAT HAS THE FAULT OF SLICK TREEING ,

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Richard Lambert
In the past, a comp dog that treed and then checked was a problem. A comp dog needed to check and then tree. Once they treed they had to stay. They couldn't tree for a minute or two and then decide to go on.
Would you rather have a comp dog that you could tree on a locate or one that you had to wait until it "settled in" before you could tree it?
This is one of the reasons behind the super independent dogs of today. In the past when dogs packed, you needed a dog that you could tree on a locate. Today it doesn't matter. If they are always by themselves, you can wait to see if they are going to stay or not. "Right or wrong, my dog had better stay" has been replaced by "my dog had better be by himself". [/QUOTE good observation ]

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Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
You honestly don't think you can train a dog to be more accurate?

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Originally posted by shadinc
My friend and I discuss this frequently. We have leaves on 1/3 of our trees year round. And 95% of the trees our dogs make are on huge oaks. In summer we can't even shine some trees because of thick underbrush. Training a dog requires consistency. How can you be consistent if you have no idea if a coon is in the tree or not?

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Originally posted by thomasg
I CAN CONTINUE TO SWITCH THEM AND SEND THEM ON TO MAKE MYSELF FEEL BETTER ,THAT IS ABOUT ALL I EVER BEEN ABLE TO ACOMPLISH , LOL MY 300$ L;IGHT PAINTS A UGLY PITURE AND BRINGS ME BACK TO REALITY , LOL I HAD A DEER RUNNING FOOL , THOUGHT I HAD HIM BROKE UNTILL I GOT A GARMIN AND COULD CUT HIM OFF AND SEE WHAT HE WAS UP TO, COME TO FIND OUT MY 100% BROKE DOG WAS STILL RUNNING THEM DEER BUT I HAD TEACHED HIM TO RUN THEM SILENT,LOL

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